Comments on: PERMAS OPEN LETTER TO MB KHALED ABOUT ZERO-SQUATTER POLICY http://www.bangkit.net/2008/03/28/permas-open-letter-to-mb-khaled-about-zero-squatter-policy/ participate, cooperate, activate! Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:05:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Tan Jo Hann http://www.bangkit.net/2008/03/28/permas-open-letter-to-mb-khaled-about-zero-squatter-policy/#comment-80675 Tan Jo Hann Sun, 06 Apr 2008 11:20:19 +0000 http://www.bangkit.net/2008/03/28/permas-open-letter-to-mb-khaled-about-zero-squatter-policy/#comment-80675 hi I just browsed the net and found your comments on our PERMAS open letter to the MB. I do agree with your observations on some level about some urban pioneers selling land, etc. of course not all urban pioneers, rumah panjang residents or low cost flats are sincere...this is life. for your information, PERMAS is a people's organisation, the committee members are all from urban poor settlements and community leaders so our views reflect the reality on the ground. Yes it is true not all NGOs can represent the voices of the people, but at least I think they try to present the people's side of the story better than many of the BN government leaders and their agencies which have always spoke on behalf of the people and always decide what is best as if the people are little children who needs to be punished and rewarded according to the government acting as "big brother". Anyway these are just my responses. thanks for your comments on our letter. Tan Jo Hann President hi I just browsed the net and found your comments on our PERMAS open letter to the MB. I do agree with your observations on some level about some urban pioneers selling land, etc. of course not all urban pioneers, rumah panjang residents or low cost flats are sincere…this is life.

for your information, PERMAS is a people’s organisation, the committee members are all from urban poor settlements and community leaders so our views reflect the reality on the ground.

Yes it is true not all NGOs can represent the voices of the people, but at least I think they try to present the people’s side of the story better than many of the BN government leaders and their agencies which have always spoke on behalf of the people and always decide what is best as if the people are little children who needs to be punished and rewarded according to the government acting as “big brother”.

Anyway these are just my responses. thanks for your comments on our letter.

Tan Jo Hann
President

]]> By: siti aishah http://www.bangkit.net/2008/03/28/permas-open-letter-to-mb-khaled-about-zero-squatter-policy/#comment-79586 siti aishah Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:13:15 +0000 http://www.bangkit.net/2008/03/28/permas-open-letter-to-mb-khaled-about-zero-squatter-policy/#comment-79586 " We would also like to urge you as the Selangor MB and the rest of the Ex-Co members to actively practice consulting with groups such as PERMAS who have been actively engaged in the struggle for adequate and permanent housing and land for the past 15-20 years." dear mb and ex-co members, actually for me, i think that better u consult with the people in the squatter rather than just the ngos. i don't really know about these ngos but i think that they are not mind readers. if so, they are talking as if the squatter people all want their lands. actually the younger generation of a lot of them just want their land so that they can sell it. the problem is still money and how much they can get. the squatter people actually, not all of them are united in what they want. so all these ngos represent which section of the people. if they just want money, how we know these ngos have already taught the squatter people to be responsible for the land. if the problem is money, than the issue might not be the land but something else like development ke or modernization maybe and bla bla bla. that statement is very hysterical. ” We would also like to urge you as the Selangor MB and the rest of the
Ex-Co members to actively practice consulting with groups such as PERMAS
who have been actively engaged in the struggle for adequate and
permanent housing and land for the past 15-20 years.”

dear mb and ex-co members,

actually for me, i think that better u consult with the people in the squatter rather than just the ngos. i don’t really know about these ngos but i think that they are not mind readers.

if so, they are talking as if the squatter people all want their lands. actually the younger generation of a lot of them just want their land so that they can sell it. the problem is still money and how much they can get. the squatter people actually, not all of them are united in what they want. so all these ngos represent which section of the people.

if they just want money, how we know these ngos have already taught the squatter people to be responsible for the land. if the problem is money, than the issue might not be the land but something else like development ke or modernization maybe and bla bla bla. that statement is very hysterical.

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