On 19.5.2007 on the 4.00p.m, 5.00p.m and 6.00 p.m news, Al Jazeera broadcasted over Astro channel 20, and worldwide, the indiscriminate Hindu temple demolishments in Malaysia.
The demolished Sri Siva Bala Muniswarar Setapak Hindu temple site with the Twin Towers, the international symbol of Malaysia proudly perched in the background and overlooking the rubble of the said temple was shown. The priest of this temple Mr.Sivalingam was shown expressing his disappointment with the state authorities.
Also broadcasted was the site of the Sri Kumaravel Hindu temple in Kg Medan which was forcibly demolished and relocated next to a sewerage plant. Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) Chairman Mr.P.Waytha Moorthy was shown in the midst of the rubble of this demolished temple, outlining how (almost all of these) Hindu temples had existed even before Malaysia’s independence in 1957 and were never legalised unlike all the Muslim places of worship, contrary to Article 11 and Article 8 of the Federal Constitution –Freedom of Religion and Equality before the law.
Malaysian’s longest serving and only Hindu minister Dato’ Seri S.Samy Vellu was then featured boldly stating that these temples were in the way of development and had to be demolished. Samy Vellu further arrogantly stated that he knows better than us and had “resited†more than 100 Hindu temples when asked (about the 68 Hindu temples demolished for the year 2006 vide Hindraf’s letter dated 20.11.2006).
Instead of directly answering the question, Samy Vellu evaded and side-stepped the whole issue by answering that NGOs’ fighting this cause were “politicising†the issue, as he had no real answers.
In the 6.00p.m news coverage, Human Rights Lawyer P.Uthayakumar was interviewed live and he outlined Article 11 of the Federal Constitution (Freedom of Religion) and Section 295 of the Penal Code (Defiling a place of worship) and that the Malaysian authorities had no respect for the Constitution and the law but continued to act with impunity. When asked by the host whether these temples were in the way of development P.Uthayakumar replied that if need be, these temples were prepared to move but no alternative land was alienated, gazetted as Hindu temple reserves and mo funds granted for their relocation by the Government of Malaysia.
When suggested by Al Jazeera host M/s Divya that critics were saying that NGOs’ were politicising the issue, P.Uthayakumar replied that they were merely temporary relocations only to be demolished later and challenged Samy Vellu to furnish us the list of the said 100 over temples “resited†with land alienated, gazetted and funded for relocation and further stating that Samy Vellu would not be able to furnish the same.
We hereby once again challenge Samy Vellu to furnish us this “resited†temple list with land alienated, gazetted as Hindu temple reserves and the amount of funds granted for the said “resitingâ€. Mr.P.Uthayakumar labelled Samy Vellu as a mere proxy of the (Prime Minister Abdullah Badawi’s) government.
We further challenge Samy Vellu to an open debate on this matter and also with a view for Al Jazeera and the media to cover the same live, and let the world decide on the state of freedom of religion in Malaysia.
We wish to record our disappointment that despite having served the Malaysian Cabinet for about half of Malaysia’s 50 years of independence, Samy Vellu is still unable to resolve this issue of indiscriminate Hindu temple demolishments, and most other even more elementary social problems affecting especially the Malaysian Indian poor.
What SAMY VELLU was talking was all lies. Take the example of SHAH ALAM, many temples were demolihed,20 over temples were brutally destroyed. When I took in charge of 17 over temples in 1981 under Malaysia Hindu Sangam , none of the temples have been given alternative sites untill today [ 26 years later] but a few temples have been destroyed with the help of MIC KANDAN,MAHALINGAM,DURAI,RAJAGOPAL,SIVALINGAM,and more destruction will be coming with KAMALA. One temple in section 16 is rumoured to be given land for the temple but that to, HALF the temple land stolen by the HELLS ASURAN MIC.
WHAT happened in Sitiawan Soffolk Estate in 1990, there was a 120 year old temple,built when Sitiawan was under the STRAITS SETTLEMENT. The state government wanted the land for police building. Without giving proper alternate land the temple was demolished using drug edicts with the over gracious MIC donkeys and GOONS. From Perak Kumaran to Samy Velo were notified and informed,court cases were filled,only DAP stood by us. After 17 years the temple site is still vacant, CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT. I do not know what to call samy velo, mic, the perak state govrn.,the local council. JACKALS,ASSES !@#*@
Whats wrong if you guys just sue, those who are demolishing the temples.
My understanding of a temple is a place of worship as well as a place for the the leaders and elders of our community to impart knowledge of all forms be it education , culture,religion etc to the younger generation.
This is where people came to share their joy and good luck with the others in the community and it was where those who had problems came to seek for help from others in the community.This is where members of the community meet during festivals and auspicious occassions to share.
It is therefore obvious that a temple is a place for the members of the indian community to communicate,spread information and decide on the future of the community.
However with the spread of the community to various locations and the formation of smaller fractions of the community the need to build temples in these different locations becomes necessary to cater to the needs of the population there.
BUT THEN THE ACTIONS OF CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS , GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND REGRETFULLY MIC (THE PARTY THAT REPRESENTS THE COMMUNITY) TO DEMOLISH THESE TEMPLES INDICATES THAT THESE GROUPS ARE THREATENED BY THE EXSISTENCE OF SUCH PLACES OF COMMUNICATION.SPREAD OF INFORMATION TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY IS STOPPED.
WHY ?????
What is going to happen to our community?
We have been discriminated for years..
But will this get worse with actions taken..
obviously there people of our own king against us…
Student..IPTA
I think Samyvelu, The elected person by CWC of MIC as the preident must be forced to attend for an interview with HINDRAF.The malaysian government thinks that he is the only proxy for malaysian indians. It has also use MIC to give any benefits or intructions to th indians. Therefore he must attend the interview and tell the truth atleast once in is lifetime. This interview must be telecast live and the whole nation must be informed earlier.
We must know how to bring him to the interview. Any idea?
i think time for change the MIC leader,Let the new brave indian take over Samy and help to save the other remaining temples….other wise no temple will be seen around….no temple no indian…
stop fillin ur pocket”"S Mr samy!!!!
I think MIC leader should be our brave lawyer P.Uthayakumar. That will be a better lesson for our government.
I think its true we have to change our MIC leader to P.Uthayakumar. Sir you are doing a great job. We will always give you full support.Well Done Mr.P.Utayakumar…
Pls help us out to solve this issue. It has been bothering lots of us.
Soon or later ther will be no place for the Indians in Malaysia. Everything will be taken over by the belacan. Pls help us out.
Hidup HINDRAF. My 100% support for your end.
Yes i agreed with you Playazz….its time to change the MIC Leader to Mr.P.Utayakumar. Sir we will always support you.Well Done!!!!!
Dear people,
It saddens me to know that people are against our undisputed noble leader Datuk Seri S. Samy vellu. Do you all know that he has done/sacrificed alot to our community? Even at the expense of his own family and his own comfort.
He planned and built good road connecting the country which makes it much easier for all to travel. Aren’r you all atleast grateful to his service. Every year he, with the help of temple management organise Thaipusam. An event which make every Malaysian Indian proud in the eyes of the world. We can also pray. So don’t tarnish the imagine of a great leader. iNstaed we should all thank him.
All of you may see today that there are many indian rich (Businessmen & Profesionals) Who provided the environment for these to happen if not for OUR LEADER. Do be like the malays who forgot DATUK SERI DR MAHATHIR’s help to the community.
LONG LIVE DATUK SERI S SAMY VELLU.
Hi Mohan,
I dono how many jack ass are there like you blind folded, look around you, highway projects are given to Bumi contractors. They will pass it to China Man for a good commission (to buy Mercedes). The China man will be using Indian’s as hard labor to complete the work.
Until today, there are funds allocated to Tamil school’s in Malaysian, but 80% of the schools are in bad shape!! Why ? cauz it goes to Samy’s pockets directly!!
So how does Samy helps? Our MIC Leader is nothing more then a old painted White Elephant.
we are nt condemm samy velu, bt the truth is he doesnt hv a ability to help our indian.
Wake up indians! We see what’s the truth now.. everybody can make changes now… No vote for BN… We not require MIC anymore which brutally engaged with UMNO (BN)… we need independant party such to show the Indian’s power even we are less than 10% of national population.. Mr.P.Uthayakumar had started something that all of crumbling in ourself.. support you guys to max! will be on your back.. Gd luck to all malaysian indians!
lawyer p.uthayakumar valga…
hindu samutayam valga…
common guys, don’t be like stupid Indian pollitics. Malaysian politics are much more matured. What guarantee is there that Samy’s replacement will be a better person. If Waytha took over MIC presidentship, you guys really think he will do a better job?? Samy made a lot his friends rich (mostly Indians) – at least he created a lot of rich Indian Dato’s among those who supported him. If you don’t get a contract – too bad, as works minister he made sure that even ali baba type business went to his Indian friends also. The poor and backward are there because they ask for it – if we concentrate on helping them, we can never create millionaires. Remember the simple philosophy “you give poor the money – they won’t work, have more kids and eventually the number of poor people will increase”.
It’s normal for people who don’t get the benefits to complaint. There are a lot of us Indians in Malaysia also living an happy and prosperous life – please don’t fight and create trouble for us.
TQ
let’s go n support Mr.P.Uthayakumar n gang….they done lot to malaysia indian.Now our time to raise voice to world.if can create some suicide bomber kill….whoever????stand in path…..i wan people say malaysian not malay …indian or chinese….be like american proud to say american.not lazy bum get extra privillege…so cal bumiputra….everyone have to for they penny….cheer up……..
My full support to HINDRAF……so u all guyz not 4get to gathered at Jln Ampang this 25 dec ..
Dear Indians.
Its time for us to get united , stop fighting among us..we been victimised by others, enough is enough ..get united once again only understanding among us will bring the victory. Each and every indian in this country should hold hands together as a family regardless our position in our community, only then the strength will greater to make the government realise, its time for them stop bullying us.Let the whole world realise that we been discrimated for past 5Oyrs. ITs time for us to wake up otherwise there will be no indians in this soil!.
Everyone should support each and every step taken by our hindraf,the only bullet we have!!.
BE UNITED .
Yes, les unite this 25th Nov… Teach lesson to the Govt and to MIC selfish leaders & supporters! We r indians born not for scared anything! Like what Swami Vivekanda say….” DO OR DIE “….!!!
vote for the right person for next election!!! that will solve this matter!!!!
Great guy!!!!! sure u all support Mr.P.Uthayakumar? Y don’t u think in this way, he can become famous. right? I’m not supporting Dato Samy Velu. But he done something , did u all check it out u all in normal life. Even malays become very rich in malaysia but still got very poor compare to indian ppl.come on guy support indian with open eyes u want temple or education??….u all need temple !tamil school! y don’t think if our children in the same with malays don’t they will get same benefit wht malays get, they will learn wht malays learn. Then fight for ur rights with Gov .ur right to get place in University and gov job…..thats my kindly advice and hope our indian will be more open minded. i support HINDRAF but not particular people.
Kumar 74, we are not beggars to take their left over.Fight for our rights.Only god can help us if Indians like KUmar 74 still support for MIC and BN.Please think about other people.May be you are well doing .Thats why you talking shit.
First and foremost hats off to these gentleman’s who took an effort to voice out concerns on behalf the Indian/Hindu community of the great Malaysia.
The fact is I would be much interested to highlight a point here. We must sincerely acknowledge that our people especially those are from the heartland and some part of unexposed area close to the city where people are very aggressive in the Hindu ritual and started to built temples every where.
There was an old saying “oru oruku oru kovil” but what happen today in our modern society? Under the name of God, Religious Egoist started to build temples on every street, every home every junction and on top of that temple also became a place where only certain people who belongs to particular caste to manage it.
Therefore these has crave a root cause to build their family temples and so on.
I think we should address these issue primarily rather then go on fighting and arguing, and complaining and whatsoever.
There are so many temples in the city too, why those temples are not disturbed or demolished? Think carefully!
All these issues and noises about the temples matter are pointless, I sincerely believe we should build more schools then temples simply because knowledge will definitely determine our children’s future, no doubt about it. In fact we have witness in front of our eyes how the Chinese community focusing in building schools rather then temples.
I believe our leaders didn’t play a proactive role in many area. The leader had failed to address issue diligently, there is an identification of our leaders incapable to mobilize dynamically.
Perhaps they would have pocketed the allocated fund for the relocation of the temples.
Thats all for now…..GOD bless Malaysia
TIME TO CHANGE !
ALL OF U KNOW THAT THE LEADER OF MIC ONLY THE PERSON WHO HAVE “MENTERI” TITLE. WHAT HAPPEN ? WHY ONLY ONE ? WHY ONLY HE HOLD THE POWER ? I THINK WE SO MANY OF PEOPLE INDIAN’S IN MIC CAN BE A “MENTERI”
WHY CHINESE COMMINITY HAVE MORE THAN ONE “MENTERI” !
PLS THINK, WE ALL HAVE GET UP FROM SLEEPING !
I think this is good job done by hindraf. My full support to HINDRAF. We as an Indian should support Mr.P.Uthayakumar.We have been discriminated for years.
But will this get worse with actions taken.
obviously there people of our own king against us. INDIAN, PLEASE WAKE UP, THIS IS THE TIME FOR DEMANDING FOR OUR RIGHTS. EVERY INDIAN MUST BE UNITED TO AGAINST OUR WORSE GOVERMENT. THINK ABOUT OUR FUTURE INDIAN GENERATION. DONT BE A GANGSTER WITHIN OUR COMUNITY. IF YOU ARE GANGSTER, SHOW IT IN CAMING 25th NOVEMBER.
STUDENT IPTS.
TAMILAN ENDRU SOLLADA TALAI NIMIRHINTHU NILLADA
VALGA CAPTAIN UTHAYAKUMAR
Dear fellow Indians,
It is as clear as the blue skies that we have been discriminated and have to just remain silent and bow down to whatever actions done by the government ie. temple demolitions and etc. We also do know that our so called leader for the community has not been doing his part as much as he was supposed to.
The action taken by Hindraf is to be saluted but the question still remains how many of our Indians itself knowing all this will take an active part to actually fight for our own rights. Our main let down is our own race. Agreed that we have been totally wronged but can we get the unity from all to go to the root of it and stand united to make sure the wrong is undone.
Furthermore, now our so called leader is propogating all sorts in the media about Hindraf and that to the extent that participant for the event on the 25th may also be caught, so do you not think there should be another cause of action prepared just if in case the event is sabotaged?
Anyway I do hope all ends well with a brighter begining for the Indian comminity with Hindraf managing to get their points across. My sincere plea to the Indians is to work and help your own and not be your own worst enemy.
i think time for change MIC Leader, Samy Velu. The malaysian MIC No.1 Lier. What is going to happen to our community?
All indian in malaysia and overseas indian of us must full support to our new arrival Mr.P Utayakumar. Next year election don’t support the Booldy Goverment BN OR UMNO. Malays are belacan, they think their hero. FUCK OFF!!They can built many surau in malaysia but no objection, from bloody Goverment. ONES AGIAN, ALL INDIAN IN MALAYSIA MUST WAKE UP.SUPPORT MR.P UTAYAKUMAR OUR NEW HERO ON THE WAY.
Samy wants to maintain his MP position rather than fight for his people. Thats y he is there licking their asses.
dei mohan naayee yaanda ipadi sami velooku
jaldra podrea… un vayeeru naranjiruthunaale
samyvelu unaku kadavul maathiri theriyuthaa
une maathiriyaane kothai thaangi ellam itunthaa
inthe india samuthaayam haiyoo gathithaan
Nee ellam tamil samuthayathil ulle pulluruvi,
othunee ….. unode perule irukire inoru Mic
youth leader koothimagan MOHAN oru veena ponavan
anaiku Minal FmLE deepavali valthu soldra epadi?
“eaa elaru deepavali valthu ,heaa roadle poombothu
paathu poonge”aparoo elarukoo deepavali vaalthu…
ennada ivalaa oru leaderaa tamil enthemaathiriyane soolnilaiyele eppadi pesarathunu theriyaathe
masaraandinge…. standard 1 padikire student kithea
valthu sole sonaa azhagaa solum…
apparam makkal osai pathirikaiyaai thadai seiyanumunu
munthiri kothaimaathiri oru arikai ithaan MIC koothi
MAGAN mohan
thirunthungedaa ….blachanuku jaldra podrathu, mothaiku
kothai thaangarathu poondrea punithamaane kariyathai
mudinjalavuku nirithi kol mudiyalanaa thooku poothuko
ile kopiyoo kudichi mandaiye poothukoo
boomiku baaram kuraiyum
I support Hindraf !!! I’m a Chinese malaysian , the Hindu community in Malaysia must voice out , there are so many poor Indians out there ! MIC could have done more to justify their rights , they failed !
I like the world know that there is a different kind of treatment for the other races in Malaysia.
It started with a man they called Mahathir 22 years ago and a Malay pretender born as an Indian. He manipulated the Malays and used them to set them against the Chinese and the Indians.
Championing their cause for his own ends,he practised subtle apartheid while condemning the West for theirs. Special privileges were for the Malays.From the purchase of houses, cars and borrowings from bank, to having special licenses for business and education quotas he bluffed the world that all were being treated fairly. Everytime there was an election he used fear by exploiting the May 13 issue.
Meanwhile he cunningly exploited the leaders of both races to take care of their own race thus using the same divide and rule policy of the British which he was set against initially. These have fallen into a trap and a viscious circle where they cannot voice out much but to be the runnning dogs of UMNO the dominant group. There is now a polarisation between the races that is seemingly impossible to heal. You see it in schools, shops, universities and the work place. The use of Islam for political mileage is the final nail on the coffin for us.
There is massive coruption, cover-ups and abuse of power. Any person coming here to start a business has to grease someones palm first or it is 30% ownership equity which will be controlled by those in power. Of late there is a vast gap between the common Malay and the those in power as the rampant rape of the coffers is being done by those in control.
The Indians are the worst lot..they have been completely played out in all areas. It is really sad as this country is really rich in natural resources and it is more than sufficient for everyone.
First at all my 100% support to the HINDRAF!
hope this issue against the Hindus in Malaysia
be settle in the right way.
My best advise to Malaysian Indians please pack
an leave Malaysia asap!!!!!
Regards,
It is sad to see the cruelty inflicted on hindus in Malaysia. Similar acts of terror is going on against hindus around the world especially in islamic nations. Unfortunately the world bodies do not consider hindus and their sufferings in the hands of muslims. The fight against this cruelty should go on.
Indians!!! Time to wake up! MIC has never done anything and will never ever do anything in the future. Support Hindraf! MIC must go! Samy Vellu must go! He has made enough money for himself, family and friends. We need someone to protect our rights and fight for us. Someone who can champion our causes and protect us and to lead us all to a brighter and better future.
Kumar74, you are obviously wrong. Many Indians are backwards because they are not given the opportunities to rise. Funds allocated to help the poor went directly to your good friend Samy’s pockets. That’s the problem with Indians like you. When you are rich and succesful, you forget other Indians. You say they are poor because they asked for it. Remember this – nobody asks to be poor!!!
Hi Kumar74,
Open your eyes and look around. Can you live happily if your bothers & sister are suffering. We are fighting for OUR RIGHTS! Watever is due to us. If you cant support just dont discourage. U can continue to live in your own so called dream world. Thanks
A big wake up to all malaysian indians out there!!!!!i really really hope tht malaysian indians realize whats really happening around u…..dont u all feel shame if someone steps on ur mother just like how the government are demolishing most of the temples around klang valley…..hey how come i thought it suppose to be multiracial country but it seemed tht the government isnt handling the country fairly….and this is definitely not the way….samy vellu is just a puppet in politics and filling his stomach with all our money but doing nothing and he afraids that the malaysian government will pull his sit off and loose all the benefits tht he is enjoying now….so malaysian indians and chinese as well plz do not vote for BN which promises blindly every time whn there is an election….to malaysian government…plz give respect to other religions as well….dont ur relegion have respect???dont ur religion teach u tht give respect and take respect….we shud replace someone whol is realiable and loyalty to the indian community to replace samy vello
We will be there always for you hindraf. Go till the Max
My full support to HINDRAF HIDUP!!!HIDUP!!!HIDUP!!!………..>
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Dear All,
Dont put your thrust in Men but in God. Put your hope in the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus said in the Bible: book of John chapter 14 verse 14-”Whatever you ask in my name I will do it” .
The Bible also said every man is accountable for what he has done in this world -wheather Good or Bad.
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I agree with rangi F***. Everyone should elect him as next MIC president. wokay va? Malaysian-Indian makkal vaalghe!! And lets fight aagainst pollution. and corruption and substitution and interuption of the revolution.
Dear fellow indian we are treated by the BN government like thrid class citizen or worst .What is happening to us now think about our
future generation.We must stand up our rights, becauses Malaysia is our country we r born here.Where we can go?WE must do something to
put to the government we have every rights like malays.
Ada pepatah mengatakan…
Ikut hati mati,
ikut perasaan binasa,
Walhal kedua-dua ungkapan itu adalah sama yang membawa erti kemusnahan, jangalah disebabkan perkara yang boleh dirunding dan bertolak ansur anda semua mengambil tindakkan terburu-buru, padahal akibatnya dibelakang hari, anda tahu dengan pasti.
Bilangan yang tidak berpuas hati adalah minoriti sahaja, sedangkan bilangan mereka yang mendapat kemakmuran daripada kehidupan yang aman di Malaysia adalah mereka yang berjiwa dan bercita-cita tinggi, contohilah mereka..contohi pemilik Air-Asia, contohilah pemilik ASTRO, semua jutawaan yang lahir drp bumi bertuah ini.
Jika disebabkan “kuil” menjadi perbalahan, rundinglah secara berhikmah, orang Melayu pun ada kehilangan “surau” rumah ibadat juga, tapi apakah daya, tanah bukan tanah kita, bukan tanah wakaf, kita kena menghormati semua hak-hak individu yang lain.
Jadi kesimpulannya, janganlah disebabkan kuil telah diruntuhkan, perpaduan kita sesama rakyat Malaysia pun ikut runtuh juga, kuil boleh dibina, tapi bila dah runtuh perpaduan…anda patut fikirkan sendiri, mungkin rakyat Malaysia dah jemu hidup senang, mungkin anda semua mahukan kekacauan dan pertumpahan darah seperti di Negara Asing, jadi terpulang kepada anda semua…maka fikir-fikirkan…hendak membina bukan mudah, tapi kalau hendak meruntuh tak sampai sekelip mata.
Amin, Ya Allah Selamatkanlah bumi Malaysia.
i giv my full support 4 tiz hindraf stuff….indians if y’all r true indians pls gather at jln ampang tiz 25 december…hmm…y’al noe wat? v r treated like 3rd class citizens in tiz country….by ryt v r da 1st ppl 2 cum 2 tiz country…then only the “rest” (if u ppl understand wat i said)….pls c flip ur history book n c…indians muz fight 4 ur ryts!!!!!
HINDRAF VALGEH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dear my INDIANS,
WE INDIANS LIVING IN THIS COUNTRY(MALAYSIA)ARE BEING HUMILLATED BY OUR FELLOW COUNTRY MAN MHICH IS THE BUMIS AND THE CHINESE. BECAUSE OF OUR SKIN COLOUR, OUR JOB, OUR PEOPLE, OUR TEMPLE, OUR CHILDREN, OUR BUSINESS, OUR CULTURAL ETC… WE ARE BEEN HARMED IN OUR FEELING AND THOUGHTS.DO THE GOVERMENT KNOWS THAT? PAK LAH KNOWS THAT? SAMY VELLU KNOWS THAT? NO NO NO…. THEY ONLY WANTS MONEY TO FULFILL THEIR POCKET. YES THE GOVERMENT, PAK LAH, AND SAMY VELLU DO THEIR PART TO IMPROVE THE LIFESTYLE HERE BUT NOT FOR WE INDIANS. WE ARE STILL LONG WAY BEHIND ALTHOUGH WE INDIANS ARE MORE INTELLIGENT, HARDWORKING AND MATURE THAN THIS BUMIS AND CHINESE. WHO TO BLAME? NOW IS THE TIME. MR.P.UTHAYAKUMAR IS THE ONE WE NEED TO STAND BACK AND FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHTS… PLEASE INDIANS, GO FORWARD TO THIS 25/11/07(SUNDAY) TO JOIN THE ASSEMBLY FOR OUR FUTURE INDIANS…PLEASE LET OUR CHILDREN SHOULD ENJOY THE BENEFIT THAT WE NEVER RECEIVE FROM THIS COUNTRY… SUPPORT THE HINDRAF… THEY FIGHT FOR US INDIANS…
Let Samy handle his family problem. We don’t need any political party or leader! Hindraf is enough.
Please Dato! Leave us alone. Touch your heart and ask “What I have done to Indian Community”?
Will give full support, fight for our rights.
Actually being a malay and bumiputra, i would like to say a few words here. We malays did not discriminate the indians or chinese. It is the ROMAN empire call UMNO that is robbing all rakyat their hard earn money via taxes and our EPF. So pls differentiate between orang melayu and orang UMNO.Also there’s a difference between UMNOputra and Bumiputra. We do pity and feel shameful that our UMNO govt have disrespect for temples, i have this funny feeling that demolishing temples so that they UMNO robbers can reclaim the land and sell it to property developers….same goes for pig culling, all this is done at the interest of the roman gods within UMNO not the peaceful ordinary malays that have no interest in plundering the rakyat money wif mega projects. So all rakyats!!! forget bout UMNO and BN let’s vote for opposition, at least the opposition do not destroy temples, force culling of pigs, rape the nation wif corruption. We are being deceived by a new roman empire called UMNO Empire……actually all high-level govt officials can get away wif a crime like rape….right??
Ancient Malaysia – Negrito aborigines are considered to be one of the first groups of people to inhabit the Malaysian peninsula. When the Proto-Malays, made up of seafarers and farmers, came to the peninsula they sent the Negritos into the jungles and hills. The Proto-Malays came from China and were technologically advanced, especially in comparison to the Negritos. After the Proto-Malays came the Deutero-Malays, which were made up of many different people – Arabs, Chinese, Indians, Proto-Malays, and Siamese. The Deutero-Malays were proficient in their use of iron and when they united with Indonesians, they combined to make up the people known today as the Malay.
Hindu Kingdom – 100 BC – 1400 AD – During this period, Malaysia’s culture changed dramatically with the arrival of Indians. Indians initially went to the Malaysian peninsula in search of a mystical place known as the “Land of Gold.” Although the places in Malaysia may not have been what they were looking for, they didn’t leave, but continued to arrive in search of gold, spices and aromatic wood. In addition to trade (with goods), the Indians introduced Hinduism and Buddhism to the peninsula, thus bringing temples and other cultural traditions from India. As a result, local kings in Malaysia combined what they considered to be the best aspects of India’s government with their own structure, thus resulting in “Indianised kingdoms.” Today, the Indian influences can best be seen in a traditional Malay wedding ceremony, which is similar to those in India.
Today (23rd Nov 2007) Lawyer Uthayakumar was arrested and sent to IPK Shah Alam at Section 9. Let us gather there to protest this stupid action by Malaysian police.
We must support our Datuk Samy Vello. he helped many people get Datuk, Dato, PJK, JP and AMN.
He building many the Tamil schools. He very the brave. Can talk very long time not get tired. He old but very good for the Indians.
I pay to the God that our Datuk Sri Samy Vellu live for very long more.
Please…. fight for our right peacefully and don’t ever be so emotional. Hope you understand… See you’all on this 25th December 2007…
MALAYSIA INDIARGAL VAALGA….
Source rom Malaysiakini.. Activist Lawyer was arrested and take to the Shah Alam police head quarters today 23 November2007 at 10.30 am. Lets us all carry out the struggle
My vote goes for HINDRAF!
MIC leader is going no where! Government saying that we are going to create issue on sensitive matter on coming sunday at UK embassy, nonsense! What about demolishing the temples? isnt it a sensitive issue?? So no one should question the government right?
Y we are seeking HINDRAF’s help to fight for the rights? Because our leader is not helping ourselves. Yes he do help others, but its not his own earnings, its all our money, our taxes, our hard earned money which has been going to him.
Dear Indians (including muslim indians), stand out for our rights, be alert! 50 years of independence did not gave us anything except poor structure for tamil schools.. demolishments of hindu temples, below minimum seats for indian students in our local universities, no medical seats for our indian graduates, BUMIPUTERA’s discrimination etc etc etc!!!!
See u all at UK Embassy coming sunday!
BUT PLEASE : I really hope that all of us will behave professionally on that day! Kindly do dress up in casual smart attire, NO TORN JEANS!! N please no vulgar words to be uttered there at the rally.. DO NOT GIVE A CHANCE FOR THE POLICE FORCE TO TAKE CHARGE DUE TO OUR IMMORAL BEHAVIOR. please ensure this..
Thankss…
thumbs up for uthayakuwar, wyata and co.
lets send a memo to the PM, to appoint Uthaya as the leader, to replace the existing ladder.
My all time support for HINDRAF……!!!! Glories to HINDRAF founders. Wonderful job by Lawyer P.Uthayakumar and Partners.
Dear Fellow Malaysian Indians,
Good to see Indians fighting for a common cause. Get ready to walk this Sunday 25th Nov……remember Mahatma Gandhi’s Salt March…
Dear Indian,
It’s time to replace Samy Vello with some young bloods he is old enough to build toll only.
Regards,
Ashok
can chinese join the rally?
In reponse to Kumar74 & Mohan,you both are a moron and your understanding is so dubious. Hindraf is doing the right thing and just b’coz the useless MIC goons have made you prosperous gives you no right to generalise saying the movement is troubling you life.
In the eye of a Malay , you are still Indian , not MIC indian like you claim. State your identity clearly for all to see , ur NRIC number,contact details , coz when Hindraf (we ) get a results which is beneficial for all Indians , better make sure you are not one of them
rgds
chandra
HINDRAF act to sue the Britain is such a foolish act… just think about it, if the Indian could sue the Britain for hardship of Indian 150 years ago, then the Malay could sue the Portuguese, the Dutch and the Britain for more millions of reason, human right, slaughtering of its people (2/3 of Malacca population slaughtered in Portuguese invation), loss of business oppotunity (the once thriving port become…?), they should sue their mother for giving birth in Malaysia instead of India.
even when crusade war the saladin didnt destroyed other temple or church
Hello Mohan and other SV supporters,
Building good roads is his JOB, that he is PAID to do. And he doesn’t even do that properly! (Kepong MRRS bridge fiasco?)
Sacrificing his time from family is HIS DECISION. Doesn’t know work and family life balance.
Eating people’s money through MAIKA and many other efforts is his HABIT.
With 1% equity for Indians (mostly owned by a handful of rich Indians), he has NOTHING to stand on and shout proudly of his non-existant achievements.
If you are so enamored by him, just open up a blog to list down all that he has done for almost 3 decades, to create jobs, education and economical opportunities for Indians. And if it sounds believable, perhaps you won’t get spit too much.
Oh, btw, whatever improvements Indians have made for themselves, most of it did not come from MIC or SV…it was through their own efforts, by selling their properties and doing back breaking work to educate their children!
All these years of indians worshipping samy and eating out of his hands has resulted in the current delapidated situation of the indians. Its up to you if you want to blame them for their own naeivity and ignorance.
The fact really i need to say is that CHANGE OUR MIC LEADER!!!!!!!!!…….
To MR-BAT,
You are so very wrong, not a single country in the world discriminates their own law abiding citizens as bad as the BN government led by UMNO. It is such a pity that you do not realize that the real power in Malaysia is in the hands of UMNO. BN is just a name used to please the non UMNO’s.
It seems that you are shifting blame to portray the Chinaman of making use of the Indians ? You should realize that most of the toll roads are given to and built by UMNO related contractors. Samy is an Indian, the Malaysian Highway Authority is headed by an Indian, but they still take orders from UMNO.
On more question, are you a UMNO member or a UMNO slave hiding behind your computer monitor ? Please point your finger at the right direction.
Since you call yourself MR-BAT, please be a man.
The MIC guys thinking only about money cos thos guys are in position only to grap money as long they are in position. Thats why they tought HIDRAF fighting for money. Other then MIC guys any others talking about getting money throug HINDRAF? No one…… HINDRAF fighting for our comunity, INDIAN Comunity. Not like this “kuujas”. Are this MIC can change UMNO’s mentality?
Hi my name is Seelan and I’m a Tamil from Singapore. I would like to document the demonstration this Sunday. I would greatly appreciate it if someone could help guide me on Sunday.
Please email me at seelanpalay@gmail.com
Mr Mohan
The only thing Samy Vellu has done is fill his own pockets by stealing and cheating the indians. Remember the Telekom Share issue where 10,000,000 shares were allocated to Maika shareholders which would have allowed all those who invested in Maika to make a substantial profit. However he hijacked 9,000,000 of the shares to his son’s company and only 1,000,000 went to Maika which resulted in Maika almost going bankrupt as it was only set up for the benefit of samy and his cronies and relatives by cheating the indians. As for the roads you talk about, do you know how much commission he earns by giving out this contracts to the contractors. He does not care about the indians but only himself. Yes he has created millionaires of some indians but only his own relatives and cronies. He has done nothing for the poor indians who really needs help. Instead he lies and cheats them when election comes but after that he is gone.
If you claim that he has sacrificed for the indians at the expense of his own family, I challenge you to give details. It seems that all his supporters only talk big of him doing things for indians but can never give details, whereas I have given details of all the bad he has done.
As for organising thaipusam, again do you know how much money goes to his pockets for this. Again I challenge you to provide the accounts for this and you will see. Batu caves collects tons of money as it is one of the major tourist attractions, where does the money go. I dare the community to provide the accounts and let all indian scrutinize it and Im sure there will be lots of discrepancies.
MY full support to Hindraf….”as hindu samutayam” all must thing along time lief, not short time lief….please given full support to our lawyer p.uthayakumar
Thanks
Please made clear of the process in building the temple. Every development must get approvals from relevant authorities. Unfortunately, there are some Indians in this country who simply build the temple without first follow the gazetted procedures. It is even worst becoz they simply built the temple on other Malaysians private land. Is it what Hindu has been teaching their followers?
Dear Fnds,
Tomo morning the moment u open ur eyes, pray first b4 u put ur feet down, pray” Malaysia Tamillan anaivarum valzha valamuden, our key leaders valzha valamuden” pray deep frm ur heart… plz v have to make the changes ..
Tamil valzha Tamillan valzha valammuden
Its time for the artificial hair head to step down and give way to the new generation to develop our long lost community back to the top of this country. No point talking to people with buffalo brain, wont move further unless you use the right method…
Hats off for the courageous people….. keep up the good work.
Dear Indian,
It’s time for the indian to think, react and decide the best for the future. So we have to chooese the right leader for our people. The choice and preference is ours.
Regards,
Sreedhar Jayavarman
we support HINDRAF!!!!!!!!!!
Dear MR Mohan
Why you’re supporting stupid Samy Velu?
Why he’s filling up your pocket also ah?
You said he is building good roads, than how come the bridges are collapsing an the roads are audulating. Year by year the toll rates are rising. Why you’re not realising all this things you stupid Mohan?
You said that MORON Samy Velu is doing lots of things for Indian community.Could you pls name some of it?
We’re not rebelling but we are just trying to protect our Indian community.
We give full support to Mr. P.UTHAYAKUMAR!!!!!!!!
About the issue of Samy Velu’s replacement, whether the next person would do a good job or not for our Indian community thats another story.
For now what we should focus is our rights as an Indians alone.Our children should get equal rights as the bumis.
Bumis are good for nothing but still they’re the one who’s getting all the privileges from the housing loans to education.
NO MORE VOTES FOR BN!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO MORE VOTES FOR MIC!!!!!!!!!!!!
All MIC leaders are good for nothing.
sooner or later this issue will definitely pop out so why not now.
Either we win our rights or else all of us pack up our things and go back to our origin India and let the “hangit sambal belacans” rule their country.
No worry INDIANS the world is wide!!!!!!!!!!
Lets wait and see in next election whats going to happen.
BE STRONG INDIANS!!!!!!!!
Dont listen to the country bruts like Mohan.
first of all, getting hyper sensitive over racial issues didn’t prove us any better compared to the rest. yes… i am a Malaysian Indian. i love my country and i am, in no way racist by any school of thought. the way that Tun Mahathir, single handedly, dealt with all his issues during his premiership has to be awarded. the current prime minister has made many unforgivable mistakes.
it is disheartening to read many comments that diss and defames Tun Mahathir. he did take a lot for his community but he also gave a lot back to the country. kudos to tun mahathir. have any of u read his books? pls do before flaming him so badly. he clearly mentioned that his biggest disappointment before leaving cabinet is that he didn’t sack 2 ministers. im sure u can guess who they are. he knew the meaning of give and take and im sure after 50 years of this country, we, Indians, had our glory years during his leadership. simple example is the maxis owner’s success due to tun mahathir’s help and there are many more. im just showing the ‘billionaire’ as a clear cut diamond.
technically we should be blaming ourselves. we let a ,useless, slow poke lead our community for almost 26 years now. we voted him up there, so why blame others. when there were smarter people and more efficient people than him, we let him bury them. he was only looking after himself, so we cant blame him. the animal kingdom understands this concept and if we cant, its an embarrassment to us. so the main blame was on us but this is not all. things have gotten worst.
as for the issues of the temples. i, personally, feel that the right is for the temple authorities and hindraf as they are the 2 Hindu related parties in this particular issue. the gov should deal with them directly and not do things as they please. the way things are going shows lack of democracy and freedom rather than justice and fairness.
for the marginalization issues of the Indian race, it is solely the current governing agency’s fault. it could have been handled in a very beautiful and just manner yet the prime minister, after acknowledging the letter, chose to go for a vacation on the day that hindraf was to meet him. i think the pm need to read some history books because we all know that racial sentiments are a major issue in this country. he should have dealt with this first before choosing his personal pleasure. his actions were sinfully wrong and also immature. im a 23 year old Malaysian Indian student and i could think better than him. shame upon him.
Malaysian Indians also have an issue where particular Malays are saying that we don’t deserve any privileges. i feel this are the type of Malays that spoil the big picture of their race. i mix around very well amongst races and i am very sure that no race in Malaysia would think like this. there are many well educated Malaysian that already think that Malaysia deserves a fair fight in the world. government policies are for the 60’s. we are so far behind. i hope that the Malaysian Indians read this and are also kindled by it.
with much love for Malaysia.
Uncle Sammy sold us all… :(
everyone should not vote for bn, make our voices heard! We cannot be oblivious to our surroundings, we malaysians deserve better and we can accomplish more with a more transparent liberal and honest government. DO NOT VOTE FOR BN!!
Dear Brothers & Sisters,
I am a Hindu and strong believer of my faith. I am proud of my Indian origins. We must understand that the Malays are not the cause of these problems. Thet are generally nice people and can be pretty understanding when you talk to them sensiby. I fully agree and have always felt with what Ahmad Sanusi has mentioned in his opinion here.
The real DEVIL in our politics are UMNO – (U Must Not Object). These UMNO politicians are not even bothered of their Malays who are suffering. They are businessmen in parliament. They are blinded wih corruption, greed, power and the least islamic of all. They will not hesitate to use their religion, racism and twist the law for their on hold to power. The biggest crook is KJ, HHO and few others butter servants. They are the ones corrupting the mind of the Malays and putting the scare in them. The NEP is an excuse for them to get richer and not for the Malays as a whole. Who actually benefitted from NEP, the UMNO putras and now their concubines in partnership, UMNO putris. They will show their heroics during the UMNO general election with cheap speeches via Race and Religion championing and also instilling fear in them that non malays are jealous of them and wnat to take their rights. The biggest culprit now is KJ and Hishamudin. All the Malays, Indians and Chinese must get together and teach hese UMNO fellas a lesson. They think they are GOD’s chosen ones. TRUTH is written every where now. No one including the many Malays trust them anymore. The Malays are also fed up – believe me.
Even the Malays that I have spoken to are all fed up with UMNO. Most Malays are, believe me…. against UMNO now. So, please do not condemn the Malays… they are actually okay. You can win them to your side. Not the greedy UMNO thieves and also some Indian Muslims (Mamaks) in UMNO who are disguising themselves as Malays. Example…. too many lah. Zainuddin Maidin !!!! Dey Matcha….Yanda Matcha? Most of these fellas are mixed blood, send their children overseas for education, speak English with their children and then talk about themselves as the real Malays.
So, lets get realistic here and while being emotional…. not be so narrow like these UMNO putras and putris. The Malays are nice but teach these UMNO crooks ( Romans as Ahmad Sanusi puts it)the hardest lesson in their life. My prayers are for all tomorrow. May GOD Bless this country with peace, love, prosperity for all and most of UNITY between all races and religions. No Race or Religion is greater than the other. No race must think that they must control everything. The same message goes to the Chinese too. … because some of them too sometimes behave like the Malays in the pivate sector. WE all know that. But I do have many Chinese friends who are not like that too.
If these people want to marginalise us, We can create our own economy. But from Indian owned Cash & Carry outlets, buy clothes from Kamdar (open our own clothing emporiums), buy insurances from our own people, don’t buy from colgate if they do not employ Indians in deserving roles ( we can use VICCO). What I am trying to say is create our own economy by buying from each other goods and services. Buy from desrving Chinese and Malays if they have fair play.
We can also boycott by not paying taxes to he Government if they do not treat us well. So, my dear fellow brothers/sister, we have many ways and be rational OK. My support is for all in HINDRAF and those being there.
OM JAI HANUMAN!
jaihind see you guys this sunday
Hi I think Mr.P.Uthayakumar should not become MIC leader, but kick MIC backside by setting up new party. let MIC R.I.P after years of doing S@#T all.
We indians please don’t only cry over the spilt soup such as temple demolition.
We are also sidelined in education and many other privilage as well.
We indians need to work our ass out to excel and success to become profesionals.
Majority of those poor indians become notorious and choose gangsterism as not much attention/oppurtunity given unlike the belacans who even mat rempit ,mat teropong, mat skodeng who gets to go Universiti and pass with first class honour even if they write petai and sambal on their exam papers.CONSTIPATED ARSEHOLEEESSS!!!
* majority of company don’t hire indian or they pay cheap.
* almost no government job for indians nowdays
Please leave samy alone!!!
Samyvelu is more worried of he’s hair style n hair drop rather then our indians rights.
Mr. P.UTHAYAKUMAR, you deserve to become our leader in the very next and near future.
WE INDIANS ARE THE STRONGEST ABLE TO STAND HEAT AND WORK UNDER ANY EXTREME CONDITION AS OUR GRANDPARENTS WHO CAME TO THIS COUNTRY,
ONCE AGAIN WITH THE SAME COURAGE AND SPIRIT WE INDIANS STAND HAND IN HAND TO SUPPORT YOU!!!
* samy please make way for our Mr.P.Uthayakumar
Time for samy to rest at home play with grandchildren.
Hey Guys,
Be careful. No violance. Be as strong as Gandhi
Woi!!!! If some of you (I’m not saying all) want to fight for your right.Go ahead,however u wish. BUT DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT!!! GENERALISED AND INSULT THE MALAYS.!!!!. IF YOU WANT TO BEHAVE LIKE DRUNKEN MONKEYS GET LOST FROM THIS COUNTRY…
hey u by the name “aku Melayu”,i just wana make u aware of the word “get lost” from this country……can i know what right do u have in the first place before coming up with such statement!!!!!!think about it!!!!!!
hello aku melayu,
Have you forget the past!!!
ikan bilis & kicap.
melayu bodoh(stupid bumis)
as they say melayu kayu!
What happen to indian community in Malaysia??
Nobody protect us??
Then,what for we need MIC that oppose the people that fight for our indian community??
Why Pak Lah`s government is so worst like this and Mr.SamyVellu just nod to whatever goverment`s action??
Why police should arrest the people that fight for indian community…and why should MIC oppose those people??
Its shows that MIC are not concern on indian people..and i dont know what those(MIC) people are up to??
We as indian..we need justice!!!!
Stop discriminate indian people as we are the minor community in Malaysia..it does not mean that goverment can treat us worstly..is this called multi racial country?? What the hell!!!
Stop supporting MIC(white elephant)…they didnt help our community…ask MIC to step down..we need a politic party that really up to help indian community…
dear Indian brothers & sisters,
do u all know that there’s something additional that our great indian leader had spared for our (malaysian indians) benefit?? there are 4 FREE MEDICAL SEATS (not mistaken at Manipal) offered to every country around the world(with indian community)by the Indian government, every year !!! this was started during the time of the great (late) Indra Gandhi and the scholarship program is still alive until today. are u all aware abt this? very few indeed know abt this becoz the offer obviously channelled thru our most reliable and trustworthy MIC!! i got to know this thru a good fren who has close connection with MIC that every year the free seat goes to the most DESERVING MIC CHRONIES, senator’s or dato’s son or daughter. real shocking yaaa…it’s true…the indian government might not know wat’s happening and this must be highlighted thru our HINDRAF direct to the current PM of India! there’re lots of deserving/poor indian students who could not pursue Medicine (though with very good results) coz in most cases turned down by JPA or any form of scholarships..and to our dismay, the FAT PIECE OF SHIT has been all this years giving out the offers to his JAAALRAA PIGS!!
Mohan, Sinnasamy Thevar & other SV jaalraass, the above is a fact that has been happening for the past few decades…and now wat u have to say for the FAT PIECE OF SHIT who still don’t want to give way to young/new leaders? wat happened to Maika shares that other friends in this forum had highlighted? wat abt the gangsters he use to threaten poor Maika investors from speaking up during the gen.meeting? wat happened to another additional 2 (or 3) full Ministership seats offered by the ex-PM Tun Mahathir for Indian rep in the cabinet – do u know abt this??? our fat pig tactically dismissed this offer by telling “1 seat is enough for Indian rep in the cabinet” – don’t u see that he’s such a selfish B_ST_RD???
MR UTHAYAKUMAR & co, pse look into the above matter (free medical seats sponsored by indian govermnt) as well, and I personally feel very proud to see a real Malaysian Indian struggling for the Malaysian Indians rights. I’ll pray for ur save, and blessed journey. AUM SAI RAM…may the great MahaGuru BABA of Shirdi be always with you.
I’ve seen Surau been demolished too. I’ve seen hindu temple been set up just like that just anywhere they like. What ever it is you must follow the law. It’s what kept us all straight.
Hello all
if you don’t like to live here
the door is always open for you to migrate.
Let’s migrate to australia, canada us or India
there I belive we all can live in peace.
Malaysia is a bautiful place. Let it be that way.
Its first come first served basis. If the others are here before us. Its their right to rule the country.
Who are we, We are Indians from India. Let go back to India
Oh India here I come.
Indian Joe
It’s a very very sad & heartbreaking day for all Malaysian Indian Hindus in Malaysia. “MALAYSIA” can & allowed to gather, protest, march & submit MEMO’s….plus a few flag burned for BOSNIANS, PALESTINEANS, IRAQIS and dunno who else who are thousands of miles away, BUT our peaceful gathering to submit our Memo to the British deemed illegal and the Govt went to the extent of getting a Court Order against it!!! SAD… And to all the MIC “MANDORS & MONKEYS”, if u cant stand up for our rights….SHUT UP PERMANENTLY!!!
For those who cant attend today, our Prayers r with our comrades. We can teach “THEM” a lesson when the elections come.
JAI HINDRAF!!!
Hi guys,
To know better about the condition in national schools just take a week off and be in the schools to see what is happening.On Fridays for hours the muslims have prayers during assembly. Our kids are not suppose to make noise or talk during this sections. Imagine 7 or 8 year old, how can they keep quite for an hour.Then comes the exams, they have prayers during the school days where our kids are left in the classrooms to play.Some of the teachers ask them not to come to school on these days.They have extra classes after school hours only for the malay students so that they will do well in the exams.Are they being fair to our weak kids????Imagine what will to the state of our kids in the national schools in the future.I am proud to see some brave Malaysians out there ready to struggle for our fellow Indians…Thanks…Keep doing the right things for the Indians..
aku benci sammyvellu
aku sokong uthayakumar
i support u sir
now and always
and not ever for sammyvellu
yang tahu telan duit sajer
A big wake up to all malaysian indians out there!!!!!i really really hope tht malaysian indians realize whats really happening around u…..dont u all feel shame if someone steps on ur mother just like how the government are demolishing most of the temples around klang valley…..hey how come i thought it suppose to be multiracial country but it seemed tht the government isnt handling the country fairly….and this is definitely not the way….samy vellu is just a puppet in politics and filling his stomach with all our money but doing nothing and he afraids that the malaysian government will pull his sit off and loose all the benefits tht he is enjoying now….so malaysian indians and chinese as well plz do not vote for BN which promises blindly every time whn there is an election….to malaysian government…plz give respect to other religions as well….dont ur relegion have respect???dont ur religion teach u tht give respect and take respect….we shud replace someone whol is realiable and loyalty to the indian community to replace samy vello…..samy vello must step down…
A few months back, our Education Minister was showing the keris, the symbol of Umno Youth. My daughter who was sitting next to me ask why was thia man carrying a knife. Is his life in danger? Is there somebody who want to hurt him? Her concern was for more his safety not knowing the real reason for him displaying his keris.
I thought myself for a while and found it hard to imagine waht was he trying to prove? For me, was it necessary? What is the message this man want to show to fellow Malaysia of all races. The Malays control the Goverment, The Army, The Police, the State Authhority, the local council, the bumiputra quata in all MNC companies. The Malays are guaranteed rights to land, education and others. Islam is the official religion. Everything is going their way and basically they control 100% of the country. So why the KERIS. Maybe it is to show JANGAN CABAR HAK KAMI.
Then we look at the chinese in malaysia, their success depends on their unity, coperation and business among themselves.
The question then come to us, Indians? What we have and where we are heading. Who is going to take care of us. Are we going to enjoy the success of our Country, Malaysia? Who is going to head for us to move forward.
We do not need to go far but just take Chennai as an example. The progress the Indians had made in the IT world. Again, we need guidance. The political parties should take the lead. Our rich Indian brothers should assist especially our poor folk in the estate who spent their entire life working there thinking that and their children and grandchildren future is there only to lose everything when development steps in leaving them high and dry. Without proper education and direction, influence of our great Tamil cinema, option are very less, be an hero, villian or commit suicide. End of a movie. Next please.
Assisting one or two people in a state and telling the whole world what a person or a n party has done will not lead us anywhere. We need a concrete plan to be enjoyed by every indian from young until they become somebody. If country don’t assist, the clan should spherehead it. For once, everybody from politican to the ordinary forks should sit down and come up with a twenty year plan. Success will not come overnight.
I am sad with the Indian plight but we just need good leaders to work a plan that will move us up higher than what we deserve.
I am absolutely disgusted by “Aku Malay”’s comment. Who do you bloody think you are? You don’t own this land just because you are Malay. The word “Bumiputera” doesn’t make you a prince of anything. You took this land by force from the Orang Asli and branded your proud race across everything and then made the Chinese and Indian work for your everyday comfort, while the Orang Asli are still suffering under your rule. You even branded the word “Malay” and brilliantly added “-sia” behind it. Look carefully into your own history before you start shooting your mouth off like you did. Use a little more common sense (we all know you a heck of a lot of it of late) and perhaps then we can live “harmoniously” instead of hypocritically. If you dare come back into this forum and shoot your mouth off like that again, perhaps then you should think twice and return to your own homeland in the middle east and parade your own lordship there. if you wanna speak about drunken monkeys, look at the Mat Rempits carefully and I dare you to tell us what race they are!
The politicians of BN keep telling that “WE” are breaking the law.
We are breaking the law? Which part are we breaking the law?
Can they answer? SK Devamany’s response to Al Jazeera’s interview today is just so obvious that he don’t have clear justification on why the government are stopping us by completing the peaceful gathering infront the British embassy. His answer most are “I think…err, I think…” :)
Rather than the politicians and government being so adamant and denying the fact or the purpose of the peaceful gathering to handover 100,000 signature to British and raise the truth of indian etnics rights in malaysia. Why don’t they try to be more caring and open their ears and doors to listen the minority ETNICS valuable and most meaningful concerns that the HINDRAF leaders raised?
If the points are not truth, why 1st of all the Indians from different state took the effort and came all the way to give their support?
TO BN and current GOVERNMENT > LISTEN TO THE PROBLEM and try to find the solution for EQUAL RIGHTS FOR INDIANS IN MALAYSIA. WE ARE THE CITIZENS OF MALAYSIA despite of how minority are we. THIS IS OUR COUNTRY TOO.
KUDOS and BRAVO to INDIANS SUPPORTERS AND HINDRAF TO STEP FORWARD FOR OUR RIGHTS!
PROUD TO BE INDIANS, and not indians like Kumar 74 (of course)!
Dear Indians (Brothers & Sisters),
Looks like a lot of people really do not understand the Hindraf Fight is all about. It was saddening when i read in the newspaper, our very own colored brothers disassociating themselves from this fight.
What i want to know is this. Do you want to support or give consent to all these blood sucking groups like MIC and other Indian societies the so called “Indian associations” whom are coloring the HINDRAF like how the government wants it to be done? Do you really need this kind of people to talk for you? Do you really want all these ball lickers of Umno and BN to fight for you or at least talk for you? .. I do not think so.
Brothers and Sisters, spread this message around. Coming election, DO NOT VOTE FOR BARISAN NASIONAL OR ANY OF ITS COALITION. Only vote for OPPOSITION regardless of their party. We more opposition voices. IF YOU LET THE BN to come again, ALL hopes of Indians to revive will be dead. DO NOT VOTE FOR BARISAN NASIONAL. ALL INDIANS VOTE FOR OPPOSITION. Why do you want to vote for a government that is favouring only to MUSLIMS??? We too have all the rights of this land! THIS IS OUR COUNTRY TOO! Vote for the OPPOSITIONS!
Undilah Barisan Korupsional. Bunuh, Bakar, Rogol, Curi, Colek, apa benda pun boleh.
This is not a war against race or religion.
This is purely asking for our own rights that we should deserve in this country.
Love all
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Word for the day : You make choices and dont look back
SK Devamany , keep thinking how to answer…… later after this election you’ll not the to your MP title anymore ! You can sit home and think,think……
mic is like spare punctured tyre in car . Use for nothing …just a showcase of gov tht Indians are represented in gov .
Mr Aku Melayu , watch your mouth ! Ask your nenek moyang are they “org asli” in this land. They shd have come here from Indon, Arab….etc .
Many non Malay converted and claiming Bumi status and tht’s called rite an we minority staying here for generation have to get out of the country ? We’ll not go !! Dont dream to ‘makan’ our tax money ! We r also BUMIPUTRA of Malaysia . Firstly use your head to find out the meaning of this sanskrit word “Bumiputra” .
You can critic us but sit down with whole kampung to watch Bollywood movie ?? Wht a joke !
Dear Chinese frends , pls join force with us for equality . We r not promoting any single violence . The huge crowd at KLCC tis mrg didnt even had a small stick on hand . But were attacked by tear gas/battons/water cannon ….etc . Let’s have common voice for justice !
Election around the corner !!
Hidup indian(HinDRaf)
Hidup!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hidup p.Utayakumar
for those who tink that HINDRAF is wrong…plz shut and do their own work…
Nobody ask for ur comments..
U r 100% rite Mr.Uthaya…In fact we feel proud that at least nw we have people to tink of our future n tink out of box..
CONGRATS, Sir…
MY VOTE…ONLY FOR HINDRAF..
I rather dun vote…instead of voting for useless parties..
We should make use of our voting right well….
Come..lets stand as UNITED INDIANS….
It is here. We have come full circle. The time for change is NOW. The only thing Indians must do is UNITE. Support Uthayakumar and the Band of Four of Hindraf. While many of us live in our own little comfort zones, our Indian brothers and sisters in the rural areas and those among the urban poor continue in their vicious cycle of abject poverty and dire straits of non-opportunity and deprivation. Only if we unite NOW, we can all be the agent of change that is so desperately needed for our people to claim their piece of the pie in this land of our birth where we ask only for what is rightfully ours. So I make this impassioned plea to UNITE UNITE UNITE. Do not listen to the mainstream news and what the politicians and their cronies say, but seek to find the truth by reading between the lines, and searching for true information that gives the real picture. P. Uthayakumar and his three friends are very own WHITE KHIGHTS. They are sacrificing a great deal in this crusade because they feel for the community that much. And they are not stupid. Whatever they are doing is carefully thought out and planned. After what the police have done by using tear gas and chemical laced water cannons on a planned peaceful rally which the government and its cohorts were afraid to allow due to their own self interest, we are now in full world view. We can get the support of the international community. Let us not be down trodden anymore! LET US ALL RALLY BEHIND HINDRAF AND GIVE OUR FULLEST SUPPORT SO THAT OUR NEXT GENERATION WILL STAND TO BENEFIT the fruits of this crusade. This is our best chance.
Samy Vellu is a culprit, gangster. He wants his pocket to be full. What happen to our MAIKA money. He builds thing for his own, not for the indians. Indian must support the HINDRAF not MIC. We must have a man like UTAYAKUMAR. He’s the man not samy vellu.
Athurutha…..
If i see Samy Vellu i will split on him. What he have done for Indian. NOTHING. He have taken our money. He never fight for INDIAN RIGHTS. INDIAN please make him step down from the MIC. If i got to play chess i will kick Samy Vellu and make UTHAYAKUMAR King.
Athurutha…..
Please stick 2 our course,n dont divert our attentions on race or religious blemishes. Which may distort our objective n make it difficult 4 good souls like Mr.Uthayakumar.We should work 2gether 2 deny 2/3 majority n pull the carpet under their feet, which should b a good lesson 2 any govt.
Hi All Indians.
I know that today we have made history in KL and across malaysia.
I truly support Hindraf and actions taken in the past and this morning(25/11/2007).
Our future is not sure yet and what will hapen from today still unknown. But with great hope and prayer I wish good luck to all fellow Indians.
This is our Land too and we are born here in Malaysia. Fight for our rights and the truth will reveal soon.
And always remember ” Bumi mana diPijak Di situ Langit Di junjung ”
This is our land and we are Malaysian.
And i forget to say something.
Samy Vellu is A Tragedy to All indians in Malaysia.
He have done something to us but he is not man enough to do more for Indians in Malaysia. One single thing he must remember , Soon he will depart and in front of the Lord he cant show how much he made ($$$).
And he will cry for mercy bcause failed to carry out his responsibility as a leader. Lake of Fire awaits for you Vellu Samy. Soon it will be your turn to do the frying . Cheers.
Most of Indians here are blaming the Malays for all their problems… Actually the Malays, Chinese, Aborigines, Native Borneoans also have the same kind of the problems too..
The current gov’t only help UMNOputra not Malays…
I dont mind if an Indian to be PM or what as long as he can serve all races equally… but please dont blame all Malays.
All of us must think as Malaysians first. All of us must be assimilated as Malaysians. If a Malay refused to be assimilated as a Malaysian, he can go back to Indonesia. If an India refused to be assimilated as a Malaysian, he can go back to India.
PEace
I am really surprised at how come in ‘Bolehland’ (where everyhing is boleh) a peaceful rally becomes tak boleh. Anyway keep up the good work all you guys have done in the past, today and are going to do in the future. Remember you have the background support of thousands of others who could not be present today. Thamilan Valga!
hai all!~
i’m a malayGirl. and i’m not againts HINDRAF. i live in this country with indian’s and chinese community is my neighbour. my father(malay) was born at kedah and my mother (india muslim) was born at tanjawuru(i don’t know weather i spell this correctly)INDIA.i just want to let u all know that not all malays are UMNOism. BN not just demolished hindu temple. they also demolished a lot of muslim surau and masjid(eventhough they are muslim!!!!). how could they leads us if they do bad things to their own roots?? i’m so mad to BN. let us killed this parti BarangNaik. it is not just MIC, i think the UMNO also is KUNO. let us built our new nation together!. let malaysia next 50 years leads by malaysian that love the country. not to those greed in UMNO!!!!!!!!!!!(even P.RAMLEE also said that UMNO is ‘SARKAS’- watch pendekar bujang lapok)
LONG LIVED MALAYS
LONG LIVED INDIAN
LONG LIVED CHINESE
LONG LIVED MALAYSIAN!!!!
dei kumar74
i hav read ur comments.so stupid..u dont hav brain is it..indeed..ur born in gold spoon family,thats y ur talk like rich brat.even bill gates became rich through his hard work..So if ur married u wont have a kids is it?dont thinks like rubbish. ur the type of indians that eat indians.so please don take part in any indians related issues n its better if u don write nor give any comments at all.just sit back,relax n dont contribute anything.ur this typs indians clicks.
remarks:ni sete piragu,RM0.20 ondithan kondepove,ellam polle.
hi INDIANs,
i salute the ones who help other indians to grow up in this society.take for example chinese society,the rich ones help the poor ones to grow. they give full support for their community. v should take this example.
what we are doing is for our future generation.this is indeed a good cause.this is the time that we should start to educate our INDIAN community.Take action.Every parents n teenagers should wake up n strive 4 our society..thanks for all indians whom supported the rally.I saw a scene at the rally, indians frens were holding Malaysia flag with proud.i salute u all.our religion taught us to love our country.
I LOVE INDIANS.WE LOVE MALAYSIA.N WERE MALAYSIANS.
nandri vanakam.valga hindu samayam…
to akuMelayu,
shame on you!
awak dah buat saya malu kerana awak menghina kaum lain. dan ini menunjukkan awak bertindak mengikut perasaan tanpa membuat research dan bacaan terlebih dahulu. MEMALUKAN!!
Dear frenz,
Over the years, the BN have been giving us bones with little flesh to eat. If the Malaysian government had not done anything wrong, why would they stop the Malaysian Indians to just pass in the memorandum which will ,initially would have been only an hour meeting with the British Embassy???? Its a clear cut that BN knew they have done something very very wrong….!! For all those who are reading outthere, plz play your role in our next election. PLZ VOTE for ******* , your choice of party. (By now you should know who not to vote!) Plz dont be that sort of Indians who will only hide behind the government’s back and eat their left overs! Our lion king, Mr Uthaya and Wathayamoorthy had awaken a lot of our people to the real situation. PLZ WAKE UP! and Kumar74, stop wearing sari, its time to wear men’s real drobe. All the best to all. Valga Tamil.
aku benci uthayakuma
aku sokong samyvellu
i support u sir
now and always
and ever for sammyvellu
uthayakuma pergi jahanam
uthayakuma pergi jahanam
uthayakuma pergi jahanam
samyvellu telan duit banyak banyak
it do you good and may god bless u
AYYAAA Sami step down before becoming AYYOOOO!!! SAMY. All we want is to be recognised as Malaysian citizens. We are willing to give up some priviledges but that does not mean we have to be stepped on. Indian are becoming rowdies because they dont have enough opportunities. NO ONE is helping the Indians. Indians must become independent financially so we don have to depend on Goverment. MAKE THE GOVERNMENT DEPEND ON US!! Indians work hard, earn and help others. Stop drinking and wasting time. Stop the ‘kopitiam’ drinking sessions and do something useful for you, your family and the Indian society. Tamilan Vaalga.
A good cause is to be fully supported. The website allows everyone to give its opinion. But please let us focus on the point in issue. Race and Religion should not be involved here. Comment as you like but dont hurt others otherwise we are no better than other who cause race hatred. I personally know Malays and Chinese who has also been left behind and who barely survive on a mere income. Privileges are given but some greedy man takes all to ensure his 7 generation are taken care off. Today, I will support the Hindraf plight, tomorrow the poor Malays and Chinese too who are also left behind. Then the poor sabahan and sarawakian. If the cause is just, focus on it and let us work together. A united nation is a blessed nation. Every soul will enjoy it. We are enjoying this because God loves it ie. people of different races living together. Again, the goverment, the politican, our leaders, save the poor and let us enjoy the blessing.
woi’aku melayu’.what are you thinking of yourself ah?we are born here.we are also a malaysian by any law.so keep your bloody mouth shut!!before you ask us to get lost from this country you better think twice.you yourself didnt own it.
you malays are also outsiders.the real people who owns this country are orang asli’s.you people already condemned them and now you are trying to do the same thing with us is it?piirah!!!!!!
we are not against our malay friends.we are just protecting our rights.is that too much for you guys?please dont involve races and religions in this issue.if you guys still think this HINDRAF thing has something to do with race and religion than i should say those people are stupid although educated.
Hi MalayGirl and Liberal Malay , agree with you . I too have many close Malay frens . We r not against Malays but just UMNO . U r rite , UNMO has only made rich richer and poor remain poor even within Malays. Dozens of petitions been given to gov for equality but no response ! Many Indians got high scored results but no Uni place but those with Grade2 or 3 could get Engr/Medical courses . Now Khairy asking why ‘newspaper vendorship’ controlled only by one race!!! Tis Khairy came frm no where to win in UNMO uncontested ! Cakap macam Bapa Pembangunan Malaysia moden !!!
Saw TV3 news at 8pm , they only paint the rally as haram and only show same injured policeman and not the dozens of lay Indians whom got beaten up. TV3 is another racist ! Gov,police,media …etc all against us!!
Here comes ELECTION !!! Yeah……u know i know whom NOT to vote!!!
Btw , dun bother bout ‘blackships’ like kumar74 .
Uthayakumar sir,you have done a very good job.it was a good interview with aljazeera,i 100% support your comment about malaysian indian marginalisation,and also discrimination,hope our indian community will
have a brightful future and free frm samy vellu’s rule.
MIC….
makkalai iraivanae kaapatru..
shame on Malaysia!!! wats wrong to juz leave Hindraf to submit de pettision??? if de ruling party doesnt make mistakes or discrimination they don need to afraid of this SMALL Hindraf wat??? x buat salah x perlu takut la weh…
n FUCK OFF to “akumalay” who de hell u r to ask us to get out???? jika indians n chinese dah kluar dr malaysia, u kena mengemis la..
C GOOD THING BOUT SAMY VELLU..I WAN SHOW TO U GUYZ..
PLZ READ TIZ TOOOOO….I WAN C SAMY VELLU 4 ONE THING,IS TAT I CN C HIM EASY???I ASK TO ONE PERSON HE/SHE TEL TO ME..
IS IT NOT EASY N NOT DIFFUCULT TO C SAMY VELLU..
THEN HE/SHE EXPLAIN TO ME…
S:SAY MONEY TALK EVERYTHING
A:MONEY
M:MONEY
Y:MONEY
V:MONEY
L:MONEY
L:MONEY
U:MONEY
I NVR UNDERSTAND TAT TIME BUT NW I KNOW THE REACON..
I THINK I WRONG ADY THINK BOUT SAMY VELLU EASYLY COZ IF WAN TALK BOUT HIM
HZ TO KEEP MONEY 1ST….
N OSO DUN GOOD THINK SUCH HE DO GOOD THING TO INDIAN…
VALKA INDIA MAKKAL IN MALAYSIA WIT RIGHTZ..
VALKA TAMIL MAKKAL IN MALAYSIA
This is what happening Over here in Kuwait also we are not even allowed to walk in the streetwith family, A small boy who ages 5 splits on Us saying we are hindus but in case of muslims you cannot even think about the vise versa ?
What is happening to Hindus all over the world ?
Dear Frens, malay chinese and all r frens, we are not condenm & talk about racial problems here, we are asking our rights,,,tats all. This is just bcos of our future generation. Jst think of ur kids in thr education!!!. We want our indian rights. All indians ..wake-up now…this is the time for us to fight for our rights…rights…rights..wakeup wakeup..dont sty behind & hide urself
OUR SUPPORT …NO MORE TO MIC..& BN
THINK TWICE B4 VOTE
“VALGEH INDIA SAMUTHAYAM”
What’s happen in Malaysia???
I am really concerning about this country. I do not want it to be another “poor” country because the ‘foolish’ of govt.
How can we become developed nation if there is no “fair play”??? Investors are running away… rakyat are migrating…
Mr “Toll” also have interests in other country…
For those who in the “helm”
Just ask yourself! who are the main contributors to the country? Without us, do you think Malaya can become today’s Malaysia??? Many of us created our own businesses during Malaya. We made our living with hardworking attitude…We treated this country as our country.
We contributed our wealth to the “origin” without any “noise”. However, the thing started to lose control after M stepped down. All these “fxxxer” getting greedy. they robbed our companies. they chased us out. They think they are capable in doing things. fxxx!!! just look at the companies under gov.
I hope all these people can us a fair play
I’m very proud of malaysian indian and Mr. utayakumar n Co’s of their actions towards m’sian goverment. I think this is still not late for us to fight for our own rights. I feel ashamed of the action taken by m’sian gvt for being soo cheap by using police force in a cruel manner against us… even after being told as its an Humble request.
from the action taken by m’sian gvt, we could understand that they’re guilty and affraid of what they did to us so far. Its kind of a victory to us too…
Anyways, may our great god will be always with us to protect us and the victory will be ours.
Justice will win.
We’re indians… will be always Malaysian indians.
hands up for HINDRAF
being a civil servant i myself suppost HINDRAf. No more discrimination of indian community. we want justice. Pak lah has failed to lead the country.
i fully support hindraf we have to joins hand for our generation. Mr. Utayakumar I M proud of u. we will win we can
Everyone has the right to voice their rights.. So Indians… do it.. do it in peaceful way.. Leave other races alone, dont blame them.. this is about leadership.. it’s time for a change !
Valvathu oru murai,valtha vendum nam talaimurai…ondru paduvom,poraduvom…nam talai muraiyavathu nandraga valattum intha mannil! theni(bee) tan kootai udaithal ondraga serthu kottum..udaithatho nam kovilgalai! thenikku 5 arivu..namakko 6 arivu…! atharku varum aatiram koode namakku varavillaiya?
ondru paduvom,sintippom,poraduvom..thank u Hindraf!
Congratulations! Indians are united!
WHat is that to comment ! MIC fails to achive this! HINDRAF provide a statistical arguments! Which no one can deny this.
What was the MIC leaders doing all the while! MIC leader only taking care of their family, wealth etc etc…
Dont believe, pay a visit to any of the MIC leader!
Once again, Poraduvum! Vettri Ungalukke.
Regards
WHAT MIC CAN DO FOR US? Nothing they can do for us. u ask they say tak ada peruntukan. they say give micro loan. when apply they say indian kota finish. they just show like helping but in real no. mic will tell u, i got no other work only to see u haa. do u indian people know wat the leaders do. they are robber. A FRIEND OF MINE is a leader in bahagian, so i ask him what u do as a leader in mic for the indian. u know what he tell me. he tell i just got to make some money if i do i wont be in my post. mic is just a papet they cant do any thing for our community. but uthaya a great man who think for us indian our generation. we indian have to be one heart to fight for our rights.
if we dont stand togather n fight we all indian will b muslim. we wont get justice like rena roy and many more
jai hin hindraf
hindraf we support hindraf
all indian bro. n sister please support hindraf
we born in malaysia we hv our rights
malaysia is not for malays only
we r also bumiputra which means we r sons and daughters of this land we have all the right BUMIPUTRA IS NOT FOR MALAYS
Dear beloved Malaysians pls stop once n 4 all tis belittling of our our fellow malaysians. I belive v hv done whats best lets leave everythings 2 Al mighty God. 4 its Gods blueprint that we are unique by any measure,those who think that they can rule as they wish will inherit the wrath of Al mighty God. 4 7 generations 2 come.
i’m IPTA student..I’m so worried bout our indian community future…every where is politic..even in the university it self…i hope some thing good wil happen to save al of us…dear frens pray for it.
Dear Aku Melayu,
Firstly let me apologise on behalf of some bloggers for some very insulting comments made.
At the same time you must understand the gravity of what you said. Don’t add salt to the open wound.
The whole issue is about dissatisfaction in the current government practices. Please understand these people have numerous reasons and valid facts to show their dissatisfaction.
Let me share with you my experience of my school days some 20 years back. These are actual statistics and not fabricated figures. I’m dead sure the non-malays who went to Form 6 science stream have experienced the same thing.
Up to form five there were about 30 malay students, 9 chinese students and 4 indians in my class. We had no problem becoming friends with any race. Hailing from a small town and living in a kampung environment myself, i had many malay neighbours and friends. After the SPM exam things changed very drastically. In my Lower 6 Science, there was only one malay friend wuth a third grade . And he disappeared 3 months after ,having been given a place at ITM with a scholarship.It puzzled me then, about the whereabouts of my other friends with 1st & 2nd grades. Soon after we came to know that every single one of them had been offered a place to study abroad or absorbed into matriculation at public uni. And this was the trigger of the racial sentiment at such a tender age, as i had very good grades and badly needed financial assistance, due to my extreme poverty with a single mother struggling to even feed her four children. My sisters had given up studying to put me to school.
Things have only become worse over the years and the racial sentiment has not let up. So what you see now, is only the manifestation of the many years of suppresion we have suffered. We ask, what anyone who has given so much to the building of a nation might ask, the right to living and a safe secure tomorrow for our children.
And a gentle reminder to the abusive bloggers. Let us not insult each other as the message together with the perspective would be lost at this emotionally charged times. On no account should our nation’s peace and people’s welfare should be sacrificed.
samy vellu and da government are big suckers…….
I am very happy that our indians at last have their eyes open.
DIHARAP KEJADIAN PAGI TADI AKAN MEMBUKA MATA DAN
MENYEDARKAN SEMUA PIHAK TENTANGAN RINTIHAN YANG SELAMA INI
DIPENDAMKAN OLEH GENERASI INDIA MASA KINI, YANG AMAT DIPINGGIRKAN DALAM SEMUA SEKTOR.
KERAJAAN MALAYSIA MESTI MENJAGA KEBAJIKAN SEMUA PENDUDUK MALAYSIA DENGAN ADIL DAN SAKSAMA.
KAUM INDIAN JUGA PENYUMBANG BESAR DALAM MENJANA EKONOMI
MALAYSIA.
AKHIRNYA, KAUM INDIA TAK KURANG HEBAT KALAU DIBANDINGKAN DENGAN KAUM LAIN DARI SEGI KEBOLEHAN, KEPINTARAN, KECEKAPAN
DAN SEBAGAINYA.
why u indian must behave like this….i also indian…let see the indian from india….they came here to work…no nothing for them there…
we live in malaysia..our pemimpin are very nice to us…give us jobs..school and every thing..it is up to u..mau makan mau suap ka…
basuh tangan makan la…bumi malaysia kaya…kita sangat beruntung..bolih
cari makan di mana kita mau tanpa pergi luar negara macam most indian dan
indonesian,vietnam dan orang america pon ada kat sini…common brohers and sisters…open your eye..this is malaysia la…if we talk about temple..temple la…dont hit around the bush..in jb i never heard any temple being demolish….of course la…u kena..tepi jalan pun mau bikin..bahaya la kawan…mau parking mana…langgar lori siapa susah..ok
Today all indians support hindraf.MIC should think about it? why all indian support and take part in the rally. Past 50 years what MIC done for Indian. MIC done alot for the MIC leaders only not for people.
Well lets not talk about MIC (political) nor a racial issue..
Its merely A FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHTS!!
Dear brothers and sisters, Let us all unite and toil together as In the end, THE TRUTH WILL REVEAL and JUSTICE WILL WIN!!
..Peace and ahimsa..
pantaikah yang bersalah
menagih rindu embusan ombak…
atau
ombak yang menerjah
lantaran taufan yang mengganas….
friends,
the result is not important
but the process….
the problem was began when you mark no(X)to the person you want.
so, we must carefully mark.. this time
i as a graduate from private uni had felt the sting of gov oppression towards our fellow indians. i totally agree wit Depressed Indian tat a feeling of racial sentiment being cultivate in such an early age. however not many of our indian brother are not fortunate to further studies. gov is to blame for tis lack of opportunity.
Regarding wat mic had done for us. it is clear tat tey did not do anythg for indian community as a whole. juz by making a small fraction of indian rich( mostly mic cronies….i shall add) does not justify them. if mic had done itz job then tis rally wouldn’t happen in the 1st place. tis gathering shows hw dysfuntional is mic in carrying out itz duty.it is obvious nw tat we indians hv been fooled, stepped on and sidelined by our own gov (including the very mic we vote for!!)
im really proud of the panel of lawyer responsible for tis rally.
tis is a wake up call for all malaysian…not only indian tat our gov does not put our interest before their greed.
TOGETHER FOR A BETTER AND FAIR MALAYSIA
‘ THE POWER TO CHANGE THE FATE OF A COUNTRY LIES ON THE HAND OF ITZ PPL’
Fellas,
Since I am not mentioning my ‘race’ here , let me help you to guess.
When I cut my finger , the only thing comes out is somekind of liquid in RED. That means my race is “RED”
Based on this terminology, The big question is : What race are you ? Green, Blue , Yellow or … still RED ?
Vanakam,
Thanks for all those who has supported and actually realized the truth about Malaysian Indians’ rights!
Do not just see from the views of mr.samy veloo’s pets , who are getting “5 star 5 meals†without putting any efforts and showing any excellence in their job. we are talking about the majority of indian’s who are being neglected! please do see from our point of view(students), where education is the only hope for us to improve in life. its is the only way for the poor’s stepping stone to a brighter life in future!unfortunately, even the best scorers are facing a lot of troubles in getting JPA scholarship or atleast a seat in any IPTA! it is very obvious that the quote system is discriminating the Indians by putting us under the “minority†group! If the one and only Indian party is not supporting us thoroughly, how are going to be strong in this country and claim our rights? One more thing that we are still filling the forms as bangsa india where else it is stated in history books to achieve a 100ºngsa Malaysia! it has already been 50 years of independence and yet we are still filling it in that way. do we need need stay up to another 50 years to be stated as the Malaysians? Hello it has already been more than two generations since we have been in this country. Now let’s talk about business, why is it a must to place a Bumi worker even if to run a restaurant? Why don’t we make it a must to have equal multiracial workers?How often do you see Indian workers under the government line? Isn’t it damn obvious that we Indians are discriminated in almost every single aspect? Why can’t we have a temple in every residential area as how it is a must to have a mosque or a surau? Since we are only acting for our own rigts let us stand together!
Indian frens ,please thayavusenji yarum nandu kathaye follow panirathinngea..orutharu kaala innorutharu vaari vidamea thayavusenji yellarum minnukku vaangappa.othumeiyei kadaipidippom!
Vazhga Hindraf!!!
Hello Malaysian People,
Imagine if Indian Government stop buying Malaysian Palm oil!!!
Imagine how the UMNO will survive!!!
Imagine if the whole world stop buying this stupid
palm oil!!!
Imagine the whole Malaysian Economy!!!
Imagine the whole India came to Malaysia and shit
on Malaysian soil!!!
Malaysia will get one more shitsunami again!!!
Go back grow rubber & paddy okay.
It`s too late ya.
DEAR,ALL INDIANS
LET US BE UNITED AS WHAT WE ARE LIKE NOW AND FOREEVER
TO FIGHT AND STRIVE FOR OUR RIGHTS IN THIS COUNTRY.
WE SHOULD UNITE LIKE THIS LONG TIME AGO BUT STILL NOT LATE..
YES NOW WE HAVE RISE AND AWAKEN BY OUR NEW STRONG LEADERS NOW.
SO STAY UNITED AND GO ALL THE WAY TO
ACHIVE OUR “”MISSIONS AND DREAMS OF OUR INDIANS”"
samy vellu sucks!
Why is there a Masjid in everycorner of the road,???????WHY???
Then we have the rights to built our Temple RIte?
Hidup HINDRAF>
Hello,
As a malay, i really sympathize for what had happend to Indian community in malaysia. u guys keep asking for ur rights such as building temple etc..yeah, thats right for ur right!unfortunately, u guys almost forgot, even at “bad situation” like this, indian people still being able to live happily in malaysia. we as malaysian, must realize, really rellize that our country consist of so many races and religion..every singly races and religion keep asking for their right. but we must aware, its impossible for the govertment to fullfill 100% what every single party needs..we need to be thankful to the God for the peaceness of our country right now…if look behind, at early 50’s, our country really poor and unstable at all..please be patient..indian, malay, chinese and other bumi’s are malaysian..we need to build up our country in our way..in peace and democracy way..dont give any chance keganasan to be bersarang in our heart..
best regard,
HINDRAF Valgae,
Hindu samuthayam Valgae,
Samy Vellu Olingge,
MIC Thalaivar mathungge,
appe than nadu urupudum…
Malaysian people,
please be patient when asking our right..its true we need to push our goverment to hear our problem..but we must realize, “demonstration” is not malaysian culture…not for malay, not for indian, not for chinese..
i got a lot of friends who are indian and chinese..i like to be friend for them…i’m afraid this kind of situation, will destroy these good relationship…
so guys, be patient ok…
My personel opinion is to sue all MIC leaders who is the root cause of the sufferings we indians are facing today.Dont vote for them and barisan national at all. Lodge complain to the ACA and presuse relevant authorities to set up ROYAL COMMISION to check on the asset Sami velu and his son has in malaysia and other part of the world.This action sould serve other MIC leaders as well. WE DONT NEED MIC .WE nead leaders like Uthaya kumar, Vethe murthy who understant the law and have has guts to speak up .PODATHEY PODATHEY VOTAI BARISAN NATIONAL LUKKU PODATHEY. ATHUVUM SOTHEI SRI SAMY VELU VUKKU PODATHEY.
i have been trying to follow this issue from australia, and would like to know from the people there how the demonstration went? I heard there were some 100 arrests, did we get what we wanted. Whaterver happens, the publicity gained would increase the level of awareness in the community that there are better alternatives that a wig wearing, gold digging corrupt leader (ie Samy ‘Thani’ Vellu). Remember this the next time the MIC elections come around.
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All Malaysian should have and share the equal rights.
No special treatment for anyone.
Everyone should work hard for their success.
If the US is the land of the free, then,
Malaysia is the land of the hypocrite!
We have been tolerating the discrimination for too long!
Lets unite and fight for equal rights!
what’s going on ?
Dear friends we should be thinking of the future and how we are going to make a change for the better.
How are we going to achieve our political, cultural,religious,educational, economic and individual rights.
First and foremost we must be united “UNITED we stand,divided we Fall” that should be our motto.
Secondly we must have a VISION for our community and every person must know this VISION for our Community.
Thirdly we will achieve our VISION thru our MISSIONs and plans.
The only legitimate avenue for us to initiate a significant change is thru the ballot box.
Therefore the first mission of our community would be to reject any unjust party and elect a just, fair and impartial party.
Hindu’s are only asking for their rights ….. Neither we are being racist nor being against Malays …NO, THAT IS NOT THE OBJECTIVE HERE … WE WANT OUR RIGHTS AS MALAYSIAN!!!!!
AkuMelayu, no want has the rights to ask us to leave cause just like u this is my country too …
Vazhga Hindraf!!!
samy vellu mati mampus tak guna dia hidup…………….hidup hindraf
Well done for your support Indians! The government thought we are blind,deaf and dumb..We have proved that we are not! I understand that there are thousands and thousands of Indians who are providing their moral support from all over Malaysia. Let’s show our power through election..Let the current government know that we are brilliant! Let’s change the 50 year’s history!!!!!!
akuMelayu – you should change your name into akuUMNOputra.. you and people of your species are disgrace for all Malays/Muslims
malayGIRL – I support you…
To Sammy Vellu – you’re too old and I hate when you comment on TV… please quit.
To Pak Lah and menantu – Boleh Blah!!!
i think we must change our MIC leader soddai.lets proud to be an indian…………support hindraf
juz show your boobs against the stupid indian leader samy velu….. hindraf we are here to support YOU!!!!!!!!!!
Samy velu makan duit india bodoh!!!! sini india gaduh tak nampak mau pergi cabutv rambut kat rumah simpan!!!! you punya anak buat perangai babi tak nampak ka??? kuil india di 4 premis telah di tubuhkan di tepi loji najis mangkuk samy velu tak nampakkah??? kenapa masih dalam BN???? berapa you dapat untuk cakap di aljazera??? samy velu saya sumpah i tengok u mana mana pun u kena potong!!!!
we all should be grateful of living here in malaysia.for 3 reasons
1)the chinese in indonesia are not allowed to use their chinese names or speak their own language.you??
?)a 600 year old mosque was torn down in india because the hindus say so?now u want to complain about abolished temple that was made before merdeka?
3)u complain about discrimination?hello,even most of the malays live in poverty like u do?did their skin brothers help them?no.lets just believe that to succed,it is up to u and dont blame other people because your live is miserable. sorry guys,i dont have any prejudice mind deep inside
NEGARAKU
TANAH TUMPAHNYA DARAHKU
RAKYAT HIDUP BERSATU DAN MAJU
RAHMAT BAHAGIA TUHAN KURNIAKAN
RAJA KITA SELAMAT BERTAKHTA
RAHMAT BAHAGIA TUHAN KURNIAKAN
RAJA KITA SELAMAT BERTAKHTA
PEACE!!!
Mr Uthaya
Sir ,what you have done for indian has to be done a long time ago by our indian bastard,Samy Vellu and his sin (that is his son ).
wat e fuck samy velu n the government is doin? ask them to fuck off ler….
My fellow indians, Malaysia isnt our home, we are a displaced people. Displaced and used by the British. Oppressed by the Malays and used by the Chinese.
We want to hold rallies, file lawsuits and we want to fight the good fight if we have to.
It comes down to simple numbers. There is no point fighting, we cannot win its a simple numbers game, they have more.
My advice to all my brothers and sisters, if we over seas indians will always support you financially, emotionally and in whatever way we can, but as a displaced people ask yourselves what exactly are u fight for? Do we really want to be accepted as equals as the Malays? We’re are a hardy breed, in a land with opportunities I’ve seen out brothers and sisters rise to make millions.
Migrate if you have the opportunity, migrate to a place where you can establish yourselves again, a place where u can hold your head high and take pride in your achievements, a place where no one can or will be better than you just because of his/her race religion.
Many of our grandparents migrated from our anscestral home India, they came to what was then Malaya to seek opportunities, we’re the decendents of those proud people we carry with us the hunger to seek out opportunities, if the Malaysian government wants to restrict us, humiliate us let us leave that god forsaken country. Let us move one!!!
It may not be what we expect in the white man’s land….. but i can tell you at least you’ll have half a chance to better yourselves than then hanging around in Malaysia and having no chance at all.
Why can’t MIC steps in to address the issues of Indian community sincerely? Why can’t Samy Vellu delivers to your own community? I would say Hindraf 1 – MIC 0. The rakyat had spoken. There is REAL problem faced by Indian community. PM Abdullah Badawi should also take note and not sweep this under the carpets of Putrajaya.
Dear Frinds,
There are only two races in this world. The good and the bad.
Currently it happens that there are a lot of corrupted and greedy people in Malaysia who should be weeded out.
I agree with many there are a lot of wonderful Malays, Chinese and Indians. There is affirmirtive action for the malays. Chinese are economically better off. Indians somehow were denied everything. Who is to be blamed. It is not any race. it is some indivuduals who do not want to share and who believe that the world is theirs and they will be permanent here. It has nothing to do with race But sadly generally seen Indians as a whole have become victims and feel marginalised.
The government must look at the situation very objectively and go to the root cause for this frustration and resolve it immediately. There is a lot of frustration not only amongst the Indians, the chinese and even the deprived Malays. Let us work towards a just society without any form of discrimination based on race. Afterall we are all children of god.
dear all friends n folks
jangan kerana nila setitik rosak susu sebelanga – JANGAN
hargailah kemakmuran yang dikecapi
berbanding kekacauan dan huru-hara rakyat di negara lain – FIKIRKAN
mungkinkah kita lupa untuk bersyukur pada tuhan
atas erti dan nikmat keamanan yang diberikan
walaupun sedikit, tapi kalau bersyukur, pasti akan ada penambahan
- UNTUK TELADAN
atau kita lupa berterima kasih
pada mereka-mereka yang berusaha memajukan semua
sedangkan kita sendiri pun mungkin belum tentu boleh lakukan
- RENUNGKAN
kita pun tahu bahawa
“bukan senang nak memuaskan hati semua orang”
kita sendiri pun tak dapat memuaskan hati kehendak diri sendiri, keluarga kita sendiri – PEDOMAN
fair is not equal rights fair is to put something at it right If we don’t like dhimmocratic Malaysia, why don’t we try to migrate back to our motherland? Judging by what was posted by Indians in this forum, I don’t think India is any better than dhimmocratic Malaysia. One might argue that India has very large Muslim population. But China has large Muslim population too though not as many as India.what i want to said try use our brain and eye look around be graful
Kerajaan Negeri Selangor ingin menjelaskan kekeliruan yang ditimbulkan oleh pihak yang berkepentingan politik, terutamanya PKR, yang telah menyebarkan maklumat melalui Sistem Pesanan Ringkas (SMS) serta menghasut penganut-penganut Hindu di Malaysia untuk bertindak tidak mengikut peraturan.
Adalah perlu dinyatakan bahawa tanah setinggan Rimba Jaya, Shah Alam bukanlah milik kerajaan negeri seperti yang didakwa. Sebaliknya ia dimiliki sebuah syarikat swasta yang kemudiannya gulung tikar dan diletakkan di bawah Danaharta.
Danaharta kemudiannya membenarkan sebuah syarikat baru mengambil alih tanah tersebut. Berikutan pengambil alihan ini, syarikat tersebut perlu memajukan kawasan yang diambil alih bagi mendapatkan kembali pulangan modal yang telah dikeluarkan ketika mengambil alih tanah ini.
Oleh kerana di atas tanah tersebut terdapat 1121 setinggan yang tinggal, maka Kerajaan Negeri Selangor telah mengenakan syarat supaya syarikat tersebut menyediakan rumah-rumah kos rendah dengan subsidi RM 7, 000.00 sekeluarga/seunit kepada semua keluarga setinggan.
Pada peringkat awal syarikat tidak mahu membina rumah kos rendah dan rumah ibadat kepada umat Islam dan Hindu.
Namun Kerajaan Negeri bertegas bahawa kawasan itu tidak bolah dimajukan selagi syarikat pemaju tidak mengemukakan pelan yang meliputi pembinaan rumah kos rendah serta menyediakan kawasan tapak untuk surau dan kuil secara percuma dan sah.
Setelah syarikat bersetuju dengan syarat yang dikenakan, Kerajaan Negeri telah mengeluarkan notis pertama pada 2005.
Walau bagaimanapun penduduk tidak bersetuju dengan tawaran pemilik tanah yang dibuat melalui Kerajaan Negeri. Dalam hal ini Kerajaan Negeri telah menjadi orang tengah untuk berunding untuk mendapatkan penyelesaian yang menguntungkan kedua belah pihak.
Setelah diadakan rundingan, lapan puluh peratus (80%) penduduk bersetuju dengan tawaran tersebut. Mereka berpindak ke rumah Council yang telah disediakan di Shah Alam juga.
Apabila notis kedua dikeluarkan, terdapat 11 pemilik rumah tidak bersetuju dan memfailkan kes ini di Mahkamah Tinggi Shah Alam. Perbicaraan telah dijalankan di antara peguam pemilik tanah dengan peguam setinggan.
Keputusan mahkamah mengatakan bahawa setinggan perlu kosongkan kawasan tersebut dan pemilik tanah berhak bersihkan kawasan tanah tersebut. Setinggan memfailkan permohonan ke Mahkamah Tinggi dan keputusan memihak kepada pemilik tanah. Pihak setinggan sekali lagi memfailkan kes ke Mahkamah Tinggi Rayuan. Keputusan tetap menyebelahi kepada pemilik tanah kerana itu adalah tanah persendirian.
Pemilik tanah telah memohon bantuan kerajaan negeri untuk membersihkan kawasan tersebut dan kerajaan Negeri bertanggungjawab mengikut Akta Kanun Tanah Negara membantu proses pembersihan tersebut. Kerajaan negeri sekali menyatakan bahawa pembersihan ini hanya dilakukan jika tapak kuil disediakan dan rumah kos rendah mesti dibina.
Setelah pemaju menyediakan tapak kuil tersebut barulah notis ketiga dikeluarkan pada 3 Oktober 2007.
Penyediaan tapak kuil ini adalah persetujuan yang telah pun dinyatakan oleh pemilik kuil dan juga telah dipersetujui lebih awal oleh oleh Mendiang Dato’ K Sivalinggam dalam mesyuarat EXCO Kerajaan Negeri tahun lalu. Kedua-duanya memberi persetujuan dengan syarat tapak kuil baru disediakan sebelum dirobohkan tapak sedia ada.
Hakikatnya kerajaan Negeri telah memberi peluang selama 3 tahun untuk proses pemindahan dijalankan secara teratur dan baik.
Kerajaan Negeri terpaksa mengambil tindakan perobohan mengikut Undang-undang Kanun Tanah Negara untuk membenarkan pembangunan dibuat. PBT tidak mahu dituduh tidak mengikut arahan mahkamah.
Pemaju juga telah sanggup membayar ganti rugi, yang mungkin ada, untuk pemindahan kuil.
Malangnya, pihak pembangkang telah mempengaruhi penganut Hindu dari luar supaya datang untuk berkumpul di kuil sehingga sami kuil itu sendiri tidak boleh masuk ke kuil pada hari ini.
Kerajaan Negeri sebenarnya telah memberi banyak masa dan peluang.
Untuk makluman Penganut hindu di Selangor, Kerajaan Negeri telah menghalalkan beberapa kuil haram seperti yang telah dicadangkan oleh Pertubuhan Hindu Sanggam. Malah premium tanah yang dikenakan juga adalah minimum.
Tuduhan mengatakan Kerajaan Negeri tidak membantu agama lain adalah tidak benar. Kerajaan Negeri telah menyediakan kawasan yang besar di Batu Caves tanpa gangguan Pihak Berkuasa Tempatan (PBT).
Malah Kerajaan Negeri telah menyediakan peruntukan sebanyak RM 3 juta untuk rumah ibadat bukan Islam.
Komitmen kerajaan Negeri untuk membantu menyediakan kemudahan kepada rumah Ibadat tidak perlu dipertikaikan. Adalah menjadi menjadi kewajipan Kerajaan Negeri Selangor menyediakan kemudahan beribadat kepada semua kaum berdasarkan kebebasan beragama.
Kepada penganut agama Hindu, Kerajaan Negeri Selangor merasakan bahawa tindakan yang dibuat adalah mengikut undang-undang dan peraturan.
Harapan kami bahawa penganut Hindu boleh membina rumah Ibadah setelah mendapat kelulusan dari pertubuhan Hindu Sanggam. Kerajaan Negeri tiada halangan memberi kelulusan.
Janganlah kita terpengaruh dengan orang yang mempunyai kepentingan politik kerana agama tidak sepatutnya dipergunakan untuk mendapat keuntungan politik murahan.
Semoga tuhan mengetahui apa dilakukan dan memberi kekuatan kepada kita menegakkan kebenaran.
Kerajaan Negeri juga ingin mengucapkan selamat menyambut Hari Deepavali kepada semua penganut agama Hindu.
Sekian, terima kasih
Dikeluarkan oleh,
Sekretariat Akhbar Kerajaan Negeri Selangor
03-55447456
Dear all,
I hope we can all be patient and do not take matters in our own hand
all these comments on racism will just raise more anger and might even trigger riot or even war. I dont think we want to end up like pakistan or iraq who are fighting among themselves
I’m sure you guys could discuss this with the authority and overcome this problem without having to create a racism comments. I’m always grateful that I’m living in this country instead of Iraq or Pakistan, or even Thailand
At least, when I’m walking down the street I only need to be scared of pickpocket or snatch thief. Even if I did become a victim of any of these crime, and I’m happen to be walking in the street I can be sure that there are others who will help me.no matter what race they are
But now that everyone was raising this issue, we are now eying each other with suspiciousness.We are no longer could put trust on others from different races. Why? Because we are raising all these comments on racism
I have no objection at all in the matter of u guys trying to obtain ur right, but please dont involve the race issue
One more thing, regarding the rally even the Malays who plan on rallying in Jln Istana last week were arrested. So its really not a matter of race
Please, I think we would really like to live in peace
Hi Malaysia Indians, Keep up support the our leader Mr Uthayakumar. Sir you have done a good job for our indians. Our support is always for you sir… Our Malaysia Indians will give full support for you
I’m watching how Malaysians are breaking up. Many of you here are racists. Shame on you!! Calling the Malays belacans, the chinese Chinaman except for yourselves as “we Indians”and “brothers and sisters”. Congratulations Hindraf on your “success”. None talked about the 23trillion ringgit that’s going to the Malaysian economy. That would have been more patriotic!! Of course we all know that was not the point. If you guys really hated MIC or Sammy Veloo or whatever rights you all want, then be brave enough to call a demonstration on those issues. But you chose to give FALSE HOPE for the poor Indians! Cowards and liars that’s what you all are. I pity the people who attended the demonstration including the policemen. One for being duped, the other for doing his job.I say we work hard and love this country. Look around us. There are Malays who are poor and ignorant. There are Chinese and the others too who are scraping the pot for food ( and this is normal in any society. Stand united for Malaysia. The Malays, though have “special priveleges” are pouring it down the drain. In the end the equation squares off. Only those who work hard will survive irrespective of race, colour or creed. I say Malaysians work hard and enjoy this blessed land!! If the Ibans who were proud headhunters (and still proud of their legacy) 150 years ago can make it so can all Malaysians. Let us not be blinded by colour other then RED!!!
Dear Guys,
The definition of PEACE
1. Characterized by peace; free from war, strife, commotion,
violence, or disorder: a peaceful reign; a peaceful demonstration.
2. Peaceable; not argumentative, quarrelsome, or hostile: a peaceful
disposition.
“Demonstration†is not Malaysian culture.
Please ask for THE Rights not FIGHT FOR Rights
WE ARE MALAYSIAN…
Dear people, it’s time for us to stand for our rights. Let’s not vote for BN in the coming election. Biar BN mampus.let’s vote for DAP.
Let’s pray for the good future for indians.
Hello everyone,
Hindraf r not against any race nor anyone. it is just askin the indian rights. if their gathering is define as protest or war as said by Sept11, so how do we have to submit the petition.
another thing, wat is malaysian culture. And which countries culture is demostartion?
of course we r malaysian that’s why we r askin our rights from the government. if not can we ask from god?
come on use brain.
Mr.Uthaya and hindraf members u done a good job.
dear frenz,
I agree with Liberalmalay & Malaygal. yes u got a point and let me be assure u guys again that this is not a battle between malays and indians, its a battle between indians and the government or the umno. I think we’ve been silent enough. I urge all Indians to voice out. Enough is enough! Like how Depressed Indian and Kamban had put it, we are only fighting for our rights! We are not discriminiting any religion or ethnic . Plz frenz, do not lure this into religion hatred. Im sure all of us are aware of that. We must take this matter serously and act our part in. The police are blindfolding us the false facts as if we are doing something bad. This is our constituitional rights! For all the indians out there, plz dont live on “Ethappan” (backstabbing) or “Enakku yenna” (what is it for me?) policy anymore. This concerns all of us and the future of our children!
And AkuMelayu,….well your are totally disgusting. its cos men like you, with your typical UMMNO way of thinking, the Malaysian people are suffering, which includes the Malay people as well. Be civialized and watch your manners. You have no rights to ask us go out! I belive no one has on anyone. we are all malaysians.
Valga Tamil.
hey…. aku melayu , balik rumah makan belacan dan tidur . HINDRAF fighting for our community ,INDIAN COMMUNITY not like you all everyday eating BELACAN somuch. hoi bella lah you …… “” ENGALUDIA URUMAIKKU ENDRUM PORADUVUM UYIR ULLAVARAI “”
HINDRAF…..HINDRAF…….HINDRAF
THANKS TO ALL THE INDIANS FOR YOU KIND SUPPORT TOWARDS THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY. SOLUTE YOU FOR BEING CALM AND PATIENT. YOU HAVE PROVED THAT ALL THE INDIANS ARE NOT GANGSTERS. IT”S TIME TO STAND FOR OUR RITES. THERE IS NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT SAMMY VELLO.AS EVERYBODY KNOW HE DOESNT DO ANYTHING FOR TAMILAN.WHY WE STILL SUPPORT FOR THIS MAN? HE DONT HAVE “SUDE SORNAI” ALL THE THINGS.COMMON GUYS,DONT WAISTE YOUR TIME BY TALKING ABOUT THIS MAN.
TAMILAN ENDRE SOLLADA,TALAI NIMINTHE NILLADA…
UDAL MANNEKE UYIR TAMILEKKU
ATHAI URAKKA SOLLVOM ULAGIRKE
CONTINUE YOUR SPIRIT….
I’m so sad and sadden with yesterday and before issue where from Temple to living submissiveness;way back when my grand father reach malay,now im living in Malaysia….there is no differents everything you have to ask for,always there is force or police over tamil indian and nobody to help….Hopefully it is time that somebody to be in charge of it Welcome to Hindraf stay with us and help us through every blood you all bleed ther will be answered.May the almighty be on your site and portect you all.
For the Indian in malaysia independence is yet to see.
jxc
Guys lets don’t waste our time talking about Samy Ve….whatever is the shit is. The bottom line is 50s is more then enough….we will die if it has to be as long as our generation have all the justice and peace life in this country….we have done everything for this country and nothing to lose…..every indian in this country is an indian leader……!!!! We will fight like lions and die like KING !!!
guys.. taking about equlity and rights, majority of the indians here have been suffering from all kind of discrimination for the past 20 to 25 years.
Government fundings for Indians are channelled through MIC, but since our Dato’ Samy feels that his friends and families are the more needy ones,it’s diverted there.
So,future for Malaysian Indian gonna remain the same as long as people like Dato Samy are still there.
Well done to HINDRAF!! You have revealed the truth precisely!!
To my Malay and Chinese frens, don’t get us wrong.. we are not against you guys.. We are just against the irresponsible leaders.. they come and go with more and more wealth but we Malysians are the one crying in pain!!!
Good Day
What i think yesterday event have make goverment realize we need some change. eventhough I’m no Hindraf-man, I must say when people want something, they really mean it.
Its quite pity to see this kind of thing happen brutally, luckily nobody was killed. We can acctually approached it in different way…
A word of wisdom, “a good king comes from a good soldiers, a good soldier comes from a good people”.
Think about it, maybe this is the time to change the goverment, Salam……
Dear Samy…. you are going to loose this coming general election… please step down while you still can…. you have sold all our right to Mahathir, all for your own pockets…
GOOD BYE SAMY AND GOOD BYE MIC……….
Please don’t vote for the Cameron Highlands MIC fool… because he told Aljazeera the “look at the kind of people attending the rally”…… it is sad that he consented to the use of force of at least agreed to the use of force by our police. What do you mean by the “the kind of people”…….
you have a stupid mentality……….. it’s because of people like you our Indians are in this situation….
Mr.Uthaya and hindraf God bless you………
I AGREED WITH AGONY. WE NOT GOIN TO AGAINST OUR CHINESE AND MALAY FRIENDS. WE ARE INDIANS, WE WANT JUSTICE.YOU KNOW GUYS,QUEIT NUMBER OF INDIAN ARE WELL EDUCATED, BUT WHY WE STILL DEPENDS ON PRIVATE UNIVERSITY? WE ARE HELPLESS.
i support hindraf u did a great thing
whatever who said i really support u
Hi Malay and Chinese frens ;
We are very sorry if someone from the indian community used harsh words to address you. In reality their anger is not to other races. I beleive other races are also affected with our poor goverment leadership as well….but we hope you understand our feeling and frustration where alot of indians are started to think that they have no future in Malaysia anymore…..we have been together to bring up this country…if any other races suffer of injustice…the other race should support as well….simple because we are MALAYSIAN !!!!
SAMY SHOULD KINDLY HANDOVER HIS LEADERSHIP TO THE GREATEST EVER “INDIAN LEADER”MR.UTHAYAKUMAR ……
SAMY WHY DONT U TRY THIS
LOCK THE MALAYS WHEN THEY ARE PERFORMING PRAYERS…
SAMY SHOULD LOCK THE GATE OF THE MASJID NEGARA WHEN THERE’S FULL OF MALAYS INSIDE THE MASJID….AS WHAT HE DID TO BATU CAVES TEMPLE… ON 25TH …
SAMY SHOULD KINDLY HANDOVER THE MIC LEADERSHIP TO THE GREATEST EVER “MR.UTHAYAKUMAR”
SAMY WHY DONT YOU TRY THIS
LOCK THE GATE OF MASJID NEGARA…WHEN THERE IS FULL OF MALAYS PERFORMING THIER PRAYERS….
AS WHAT YOU DID TO THE INDIANS AT BATU CAVES TEMPLE ON 25TH.NOVEMBER.2007……
LONG LIVE MR.UTHAYAKUMAR,THE HISTORICAL LEADERS…………..THE GREAT HINDRAF!!!!!!
Hindraf makkal valge! Split on the bald head face. S.O.B…
Chairman of Hindraf have done great job for community.We all must support him forever.!!!!
Yesterday was a great history and begining of new hope for all INDIANS.
I salute Mr.Uthayakumar,the commtt and Hindraf. You are the true HERO for us Sir. We’re always behind you and keep going the noble works. Samyvelu at present is in deep STRESS and never expect such a big support for HINDRAF. This will be a turnover in coming G.E.
I’m sure all Indians wont longer simply vote for the BN. Change now to opposition. Lets have more voice in our Parliment.
We’re having so many problem and the UMNO govern purposely ignored all the cries. No blue IC’s even stayed for almost 50 years (my close friend). But for an Indonesian, they will get very fast without much problem!
And how about the property buying procedures. Why we have to pay more n the BUMI get discount 5-7%. Aren’t we a Malaysian? How about bank loans such as Bank Rakyat. They charge extra interest for non-malays. Why Bank also discriminate us??? And so many as u all knows.
So come on Indians. Lets vote for OPPOSITION!!!
To all Malaysian Friends,
We Indians not against with the Malays or try to become racist. Pls be understand that we too have the right as a citizens of Malaysia and our Prime Minister always mention that the Government threat fair to everyone. Whats mean by FAIR. Do you all know the definition of FAIRNESS AND EQUALITY? Maybe UMNO has their own definition on this. We just hope the Gov and ruling party not to be racist. Just be humble, kind, caring and treat every citizen in true manner and sincere without much for personal gain as what samyvellu do for himself and his entire families, relative and friends. This bloody Indian going to get in this coming General Election and learn a lesson.
LONG LIVE UTHAYAKUMAR !
LONG LIVE HINDRAF !!!
Dear all,
I do have my opinions, some of which have been voiced out already. I won’t be going into any of that for the moment. I do however believe in certain things which I am compelled to bring out.
Condeming other races is totally against what any of us believe in. The childish few ranting about “belacan” and other racist vocabulary when ironically, speaking out about racism, reflects poorly on not just yourselves but the whole cause. Stop it, it brings us all down.
Everyone here has got complaints and grievances, wonderful, not one of you have had the sense to propose a solution. This is why I feel this forum isn’t deserving of anyone’s attention.
This has long been the Indian dilema – Asking for help, but not knowing SPECIFICALLY what you want. And for Gods sake, don’t ask for the abolishment of Bumi rights, that isn’t going to happen. We all know how disassociated with India we are today, no one is going to go back but remember two things:
1) Three or four generations ago, our forefathers made the decision to come here voluntarily because of promises of a better life. I can almost guarantee you, those of us who have broken out of the poverty cycle here form a statistic much higher than those of us who would have achieved half as much back in our forsaken motherland; which is every bit as corrupt and racist you can imagine. Are you all disillusioned that we lost a better life/future back home for this? At least up until now, the consensus among those who I have met is a strong No.
2) This war isn’t against the Government, UMNO or other races. The shreds of democracy offered to us in the form of representation, has utterly failed to deliver in 50 years of independance. This war is about restoring that form of representation, comically which calls itself MIC or PPP, whatever really, into something with a collective united voice (something I sadly believe is impossible amongst us Indians), through the RIGHT CHANNELS and the right FORUMS. Diplomacy must follow what is a clear demonstration of a strong will.
Our first and most important cause as a collective race is this. To alleviate the situation of the hardcore poor and improve the sub-human conditions of the plantation workers, the manual labourers, them.
Our second cause, is to educate the people, to bring them out of poverty, out of the social sickness tarpits we’ve become infamous for like gangsterism.
AND THEN we can start on the other agenda’s such as the continuing difficulties of the migrant population. Or lack of government contracts (the most ridiculous excuse for our failures honestly). Every migrant in every country has had to work twice as hard as the locals – don’t get yourselves feeling sorry about having been discriminated at school or work. But at least you’re at school or at work; think back to the first cause.
Getting the first two out of the way will take years to come. Maybe we should start with that. Finally – YOUR VOTE COUNTS. That is your most powerful weapon in democracy, and it can hurt more than the watercannons and tear gas they hurl at you.
Well as a Malaysian Chinese, I can attest to the discrimination we face together with the Indians. We are being treated like a third class citizen regardless of the explanation of the Government. We are only a notch better than apartheid South Africa. We face discrimination in Government jobs, university places and so much more…. What HINDRAF did was correct. They are fighting for their rights if only the Chinese will do the same and fight against the oppression….. The discrimination must end…. If we are Malaysians, why are were treated like non-citizens?
TV3 8PM NEWS A JOKE BY SAMYVELLU !!! (26TH NOV 2007)
Just now samyvellu made a joke by telling media in TV3 news he has submitted a proposal 1 week ago to look into matters of Indians and gave records status of Indians in Goverment departments.
Why after 3 generations in Cabinet, now only gave the records… Oh my God. Its the biggest joke!!!
HOI, AKUMELAYU, , HEY CROCK!!, BETTER WATCH YOUR BLEEDY WORDS, WHO R U TELLING TO GO AWAY, JANGAN NAK BERANGAN, DONT TRY TO BUILD CASTLE IN THE AIR,
MALAYSIA= IS OUR NATION=MALAYS
CHINESE = ~B~E~K~E~R~J~A~S~A~M~A~
INDIAN ~U~N~I~T~Y~
DO U UNDERSTAND THE REAL MEANING OF “COOPERATION AMONG MALAYSIAN”
U PULAK NAK HANTAR KAMI YE, SHAME ON U, SHAME ON U,
I REPEAT , BETTER WATCH EVERY SINGLE WORD U R SAYING!!!!!!!!!
Dear Sister’s and brother’s
I’m really proud of all malaysian Indian’s who had participated in the Hindraf Rally. Every Indian should join Hindraf to fight for our rights. I’m so much impressed with our PM’s comment in today’s Newspaper saying that there r so many ways to submit the memorandum. YES! I’m wondering why before the rally he never show us the way of submitting the memorandum. May be he wanted us to submit the memorandum directly to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth with our PM’s presence at Kampala. That sound’s great.
Message for IGP : YB Dato Tan Sri Musa Hassan (Pembohong Besar)
Must learn from u how to hide the truth and how to maniplute the words.
Musa’s integrity is ???????????
You r carrying a holy prophet’s name but u r not worth to touch his feet. Your name from now should be changed from Musa to MUSANG Berbau.
Valga Hindraf
vaalga Hindraf…………..
Tamilan endru Sollada……..Thalai nimirnthu sellada
Weldone Hindraf……….Valgaa ……..
We are really proud
thank u
The Star newspaper (today page8) quote IGP said no tear gas and water canon used at Batu Caves…..liars…
It stinks to see democracy used in filthy ways …..
Hi all,
Being a Malaysian Indian, born here and have been living here for 22 years, there were not a single day of me not think of our Indian community’s future. All this while, it was only in my wildest dreams that all Indians will rise and fight for our rights. But yesterday at Jln Ampang, it was my dream come true. I saw my dear brothers and sisters fighting for our rights which we truly deserve. And please look at who brought my (and all the Malaysian Indians’) dreams come true. It’s Mr. P. Uthayakumar. Sir, sincerely from the bottom of my heart, i thank you. My mom always tell me that God wil come in human’s form to help us. And today, I feel that you are the avatar Mr. P. Uthayakumar. The exact avatar of God I’ve been praying all this while. Thank you sir. Thank you so much. My soul and support is always for HINDRAF. Love you all Malaysian Indians.
Adios amigos.
Here the proof of wht IGP said is pure lie
http://www.jeffooi.com/2007/11/hindraf_rally_ethnic_minority_1.php
dei poki MAK aku MELAYU BARUA APA YG HAMPA ADA DALAM SEJARAH
batu BERSURAT,HG.TUAH ALL THE FUCKING LIES HISTORY.DULU CAKAP HANG TUAH KATA ‘MELAYU TAKAN HILANG DALAM DUNIA’ MMG SEMUA TU TIPU BELAKA YG SEBENAR HG.TUAH TU CINA MMG TIADA CINA HILANG DALAM DUNIA PASI POPULATION DEPA RAMAI.KAKAKAKAKA HANG TUAH KONON.HANG TAU TAK PASAI PA RAJA PARAMESWARA DARI MIC MASUK JADI SULTAN PARMESWARA UMNO PASAI DIA DAPAT BURIT EMPAT .KAWIN SATU OFFER 3 LAGI.HAPPY TU SULTAN PARAMESWARA HAMPALAH ORI PARIAH TAKDE LANGSUNG ASAL KAMU EVEN BAHASA KAMU CAMPUR ADUK DGN TAMIL DAN CINA.HAMPA MELAYU ROGOL ANAK, EMAK,AND NENEK SEKALI.BANGSA PARIAH WILL DO THAT.MELAYU TIPU MELAYU SENDIRI THATS WHY 10 NOV RAMAI MELAYU MOGOK .PASAI PA??? FIKIRLAH WAHAI MELAYU PARIAH.
AND NW UR TURN DEY KOOTY MOGAN AND KUMAR ANJANDI 74.
DEY POI SAMY VELLU SUNNI PUDICI SAPU.WHAT HAPPEN TO OUR MAIKA SHARE U BASTARDS KNOW OR NOT MOST OF MONEY BELONGS TO OUR POOR INDIAN WHICH THEY SOLD THEIR PROPERTY.AND THIS PUNDAMAVAN SAMY AND HIS PARA PAYAN VELPARI THE MURDERER ENJOY IT ALL THAT MONEY.THATS WHY ALL IS 50YEAR BEING CHEATED BY THIS BASTARDS MIC AND TODAY OUR ANNAAAAAAAAAA, TALAIWAR , MAKALL HERO OUR LAWYERS UTHAYAKUMAR AND THE TEAM DARE TO FIGHTS FOR OUR RIGHTS.BRAVO,BRAVO BRAVO.
SURIYEN ONU THAN
CHANDIRAN ONU THAN
VERAMULA TAMILAN KE
SAHVA ORU MURAI THAN
RAM RAM HEY HEY RAM RAM
Dear Hindraf Members,
My support to you at all times.. Its time that we all unite to stand under one common platform to fight for our rights.
MIC is good for nothing… They are just dummies sitting as an obstacle for the indian community to progress in Malaysia.
We should organize more demonstration to let the Government know that we mean business.. Lets hold another Demonstration on the 31st of December to remind the Government that we want the new year to be in favour to the indian community. This time on a working day.. So that British Hi Com will be open
This time the Punjabi’s will support you full force… We will support the indians to fight for your right… Our council Mr Karpal Singh DAP is ready to join forces and bring justice to the Indian Community in Malaysia…
Btw we Punjabi’s are proud of our last names Singh which means LIONS… We will fight till our last breath..
Long life Hindraf…
HIN…
wat the fuck u “aku melayu”…who the hell u think u r…
dis is malaysia k……..nt ur father’s hse 2 ask us indian 2get out…
u malays get the hell out here 1st k….LONG LIFE HINDRAF!!!!!!!!!!
LONG LIFE HINDRAF!!!!!!!!!!
1st ly kepada makhluk yang bernama “nasihatku” its so easy to say that kuil yang runtuh boleh dibina…sila runtuhkan sebuah masjid yang dibina free of charge dgn menggunakan duit kerajaan dan lihatlah kepedihan nya selepas ia diruntuhkan…so mind it malay fuck!!!!
mr.uthaya is the right leader for all malaysian indians..cause he is not only sitting at home and developing his own group of people.he is fighting for all the indian rights.he is an example of true leader not like samy tahu simpan banyak bini haram..tanpa lesen indrani anak paraya
and for our minister da tua tapi nak kahwin banyak hanya itu yang tahu lain apa pun tak tahu..da tua balik tidur la.
najib anak luaar nikah dun know how to rule a nation cakap banyak je boleh(son of paraya bitch)
samy vellu anak syaitan..anak paraya duduk makan tahi kat sunagi siput..apa pon tak tahu.isap melayu cock..buat highway makan duit hindu..tapi makan tahi melayu..anak da kena sunat..dia pun kena sunat..cibai..hindu lawan dia makan tahi kat rumah…siapa vote dia memang babi..syaitan…samy dun play with our india hero”s lawyers(mr.uthaya)
hidup hindraffffffff
vaalge hindraf!!!! vaalge mr.uthayakumar!!!! we wan justice!!!!
samy veloo ollige!!!!
1. The Sri Ayyanar Sathiswary Alayam Temple (more than 65 years) Jalan Davies was demolished on 22.2.2006 and the statues buried at site.
2. The Malaimel Sri Selva Kaliamman Temple Pantai(more than 100 years) was demolished on 17.4.2006 by the Kuala Lumpur City Hall.
3. The Vaalmuniswarar Rajaamman Kovil(more than 60 years) at Lady Templer Hospital demolished on the 3.05.2006 by City Hall Kuala Lumpur.
4. Sri Kaliamman temple at Midlands Estate, Seksyen 7, Shah Alam (more than 100 years) was demolished by the Shah Alam City Hall on 9.5.2006.
5. The Sri Balakrishan Muniswarer temple in Setapak (more than 60 years) was partly demolished on 11.05.2006 by the Kuala Lumpur City Hall.
6. The Sri Balakrishan Muniswarer temple in Setapak was completely demolished and deities broken up on 8.6.2006.
7. The demolished Sri Kaliamman temple at Midlands Estate, Seksyen 7, Shah Alam was demolished for a second time on the 12.06.2006 wherein 3 main Hindu deities were hammered and smashed up to pieces with a sledge hammer by the Shah Alam City Council enforcement officers.
8. On 1.08.2006 the Om Sri Sakti Nagamma Allaya Hindu Temple in Taman Sri Manja, PJS 3/30 Petaling Jaya, Selangor was demolished by the Petaling Jaya City Council.
9. Demolishment of the Sri Subramaniam temple in Country Homes, Rawang, Selangor, Malaysia on 29.09.2006.
10. On 31.10.2006 Sri Muniswarar Temple (more than a 100 years old) which was built on private land in Bandar Rinching, Semenyih Selangor was demolished.
11. The demolishment of the Devi Sri Karumaniamman Hindu Temple, Petaling Jaya Utara, Section 21, Kampung Taman Aman on 30.11.2006.
12. On 29.12.2006 Sri Muniswarar Temple (more than a 100 years old) which was built on private land in Bandar Rinching, Semenyih Selangor was demolished.
13. On 22/2/2007 the Sri Maha Nageswari Hindu Temple in Taman Cahaya 7, Ampang, Selangor Darul Ehsan was demolished.
14. On 15.5.2007, the JKR Sri Muniswarar Hindu Temple, Jalan Kapar, Klang was demolished.
15. On 13.6.2007 the Sri Kaliaman Hindu temple in Midlands estate Shah Alam was demolished.
FOUR (4) OTHER DEMOLISHED HINDU TEMPLES LOCATED OUTSIDE KLANG VALLEY BUT WITHIN PENINSULAR MALAYSIA:-
16. The Demolishment of the Sri Maha Sivalingaeswarrar Hindu Temple, Batu 7,
Gemas Tampin 10/04/2002.
17. The 80 year old Sri Muthumariamman Alayam Hindu Temple in Skudai Johor
Bahru was demolished in August 2006.
18. Statutes from Sungai Wangi Mathurai Veeran Temple (60 years old) in Sitiawan, Kampung Tirali, 9th Mile Jalan Air Tawar, Sungai Wangi Estate, Perak were hammered, smashed up and thrown into a drain and temple demolished on 17.10.2006 by the Manjung District Council.
19. The 55 year old Kaliaman Alayam Hindu Temple in Taman Impiana Mengelembu
in Ipoh was demolished on 27/11/2006.
THIRTY ONE (31) HINDU TEMPLES WITHIN THE KLANG VALLEY THAT HAS BEEN THREATENED WITH DEMOLISHMENT NOTICE:-
20. Kuil Hindu Sri Mariaman di Seksyen 11, Shah Alam has been given notice to the demolished on 26.4.2006 from the Shah Alam Municipal Council.
21. The Sri Maha Mariamman Temple Taman Intan Baiduri Selayang has been given notice to be demolished recently (Nanban June 2006)
22. The Sri Subramaniam Temple Kg.Jawa Klang(107 years old) has been given notice to be demolished (June 2006).
23. The Mariamman Temple Jalan Meru Bandar Setia Alam, Shah Alam (101 years old) has been given notice to be demolished (June 2006)
24. The Kg.Jawa Mariamman Temple (more than 120 years) has been given notice to be demolish (June 2006).
25. The Sri Maha Laxhsmi temple in Sunway has been given notice to be demolished by the Petalaing Jaya City Council in June 2006.
26. The Sri Angineer Temple in Taman Tun Dr. Ismail, Kuala Lumpur built on a private land has been given notice to be demolished by the Kuala Lumpur City Manager(June 2006).
27. Sri Mahamariaman Hindu Temple in Kg Semarak, Old Klang Road has been threatened with demolishment five (5) times before on TOL Land-Nanban(6/7/06) pg. 12
28. Sri Sai Bala Raman Hindu Temple in Klang Jaya is being threatened with demolishment – Nesan (7/7/06)
29. 101 year old Dewi Sri Karumari Aman Temple in 4 1/2 Mile Jalan Meru, Klang was ordered closed by Selangor State Government on 10.07.2006 and thereafter the said temple is threatened to be demolished to make way for housing development.
30. The 101 year old Thevy Sri Karumariamman temple’s Bandar Setia Alam, Shah Alam access road to be closed on 10.7.2006 by the Selangor State Government and later to be demolished to make way for a private housing development.
31. Arun Estate Temple in Shah Alam- Nesan (12/7/06) pg. 6
32. In July 2006 the 110 year old Tepi Sungai JKR Mariaman Temple was given notice to be demolished.
33. In July 2006 the Sri Muniswarar temple in Jalan Air Panas Baru Setapak was given notice to be demolished.
34. In July 2006, the Sri Jada Muniswarar Hindu Temple in Danau Kota, Kuala Lumpur was given notice to be demolished.
35. Jedda Manismanar Hindu Temple in Jalan Setapak was informed to vacate is being threatened with demolishment – Nesan(17/8/06)
36. Sri Maha Megeswari Hindu Temple in Lembah Jaya, Ampang is being threatened with demolishment -Nesan(20/8/06)
37. Muniswarar Hindu Temple in Bandar Baru Ampang is being threatened with demolishment -Nesan(20/8/06)
38. Sri Sakti Vinayar Hindu Temple in Kampung Ampang Indah is being threatened with demolishment -Nesan(20/8/06)
39. Mariaman Hindu Temple in Kg Tasik Permai, Ampang is being threatened with demolishment -Nesan(20/8/06)
40. Siti Subramariam Hindu Temple in Kg Tasik Permai, Ampang is being threatened with demolishment -Nesan(20/8/06)
41. Sri Mariaman Temple (60 years old) in Section 18 given notice to relocate on 18/10/2006.
42. Sri Kaliaman Temple (80 years old) in Section 18 given notice to relocate on 18/10/2006.
43. Sri Vinayagar Temple (80 years old) in Section 18 given notice to relocate on 18/10/2006.
44. Sri Mariaman Temple (109 years old) in Section 19 which has a sacred 100 year old tree given notice to relocate on 18/10/2006.
45. Sri Mariaman Temple (100 years old) in Section 15 given notice to relocate on 18/10/2006.
46. Sri Maha Mariaman Hindu Temple in Section 11 given notice to relocate on 18/10/2006.
47. The 80 year old Sri Athi Muniswara Temple in Jalan Semarak, off Jalan Gurney in Kuala Lumpur was given notice to be demolished on 19.10.2006.
48. On 21.11.2006 the Sivaksakthi Linggeswara Hindu Temple in Kampung Tropikana, Jalan Padang Tembak, Subang Jaya given notice to be demolished.
49. The Sri Kamatchie Amman Telecoms Temple Cheras (more than 100 years) is being threatened with demolishment.
50. Despite receiving recognition from UNESCO, Nageswari Hindu Temple in Bangsar is being threatened with demolishment.
SEVENTEEN (17) OTHER HINDU TEMPLES LOCATED OUTSIDE THE KLANG VALLEY BUT WITHIN PENINSULA MALAYSIA THAT HAS BEEN THREATENED WITH DEMOLISHMENT:-
51. The Sri Muniswarar Aalayam Seremban (150 years) and a 150 year old Raintree have been threatened with demolishment since March 2006 by the District and Land Office .
52. On 26.6.2006 the 110 year old the Sri Chinna Karuppan Temple in Masai Johor was given notice to be demolished.
53. The 60 year old Saiva Muniswarar Temple Temple in Sg.Petani Kedah given notice to be demolished (Nanban 29.6.2006 pg 4)
54. Sri Muthumariaman Aman Skudai Hindu Temple (70 years old) in Lindon Estate risks being demolished- Nesan (3/7/06) pg. 7
55. Sri Muniswarar Temple in Slim River- Nesan (14/7/06)
56. On 15.7.2006 the Muniswarar Temple in Sitiawan was given notice to be demolished- Nanban(15/7/06)
57. Hindu Temple is being threatened with demolishment – Nesan (19/7/06) pg. 6
58. Sri Nageswari Amman Alayam Hindu Temple is being threatened with demolishment – Nesan (19/7/06) pg. 6
59. Muniswarar Hindu Temple is being threatened with demolishment – Nesan (19/7/06) pg. 6
60. Sri Sakti Viyanayagar Hindu Temple is being threatened with demolishment – Nesan (19/7/06) pg. 6
61. Sri Maha Mariaman Hindu Temple is being threatened with demolishment – Nesan (19/7/06) pg. 6
62. Sri Subramaniam Hindu Temple is being threatened with demolishment -Nesan (19/7/06) pg. 6
63. Muthu Mariaman Hindu Temple in Liutan Estate Skudai threatened to be demolished on 13.08.06.
64. Sri Subramaniam Hindu Temple in Kampar is being threatened with demolishment -Nesan(21/8/06)
65. Bangi Mariaman Hindu Temple is being threatened with demolishment -Nesan(23/8/06)
66. Taman U Hindu Temple in Skudai, Johor Bahru was on the verge of being demolished when about 600 Hindu devotees protested on 23.08.06.
67. Sri Mathuraimeeran Hindu Temple in Kampar Taman, Sri Wangi is being threatened with demolishment -Nanban(25/8/06).
THREE (3) HINDU TEMPLES THAT HAVE BEEN BURNT TO THE GROUND:-
68. The Ganggai Muthu Karumariaman temple in PMR Batu Buntung Estate Kulim,
Kedah on 15.5.2006 was torched by unknown / mysterious criminals.
69. The Sri Kalikambul Kamadeswarar temple in Ebor Estate Batu Tiga, Shah Alam Selangor.
70. The Sri Kalkattha Kaliamman temple in Kampung Sungai Kayu Ara, 47400 Petaling Jaya.
SIX (6) TEMPLES FORCED TO BE RELOCATED NEXT TO SEWERAGE TANKS:-
71. The Sri Muneeswarar JKR Temple, Batu 5/12, Jalan Kapar, 42100 Klang, Selangor (73 years old) was given notice to be demolished forced to be relocated next to a severage tank (June 2006). (Hindraf)
72. Sri Kumaravel Hindu Temple in Kampung Medan, Petaling Jaya, Selangor was forcibly relocated next to a sewarage tank, electric station (TNB) and high voltage cable on 14.07.2006 . (Makkal Osai 15.7.06)
73. Mariaman Hindu Temple in Bukit Beonang, Taman Bukit Melaka forced to relocate next to sewerage tank.(Nanban 25/8/2006)
74. Sri Raja Rajeswarar Hindu Temple in Taman Tunku Jaafar, Senawang, Seremban. (Hindraf)
75. Mariaman and Perumal Hindu Temple in Puchong Perdana, Selangor. (DAP sources)
76. Mariaman Temple in Desa Mewah, Sunway Semenyih forcibly relocated next to a septic tank. (Bandar Rincing, Semenyih Temple Chairman)
THREE (3) HINDU TEMPLES WHERE DEITIES FORCIBLY REMOVED:-
77. Statues from 73 year old JKR Sri Muniswarar Temple, Jalan Kapar Klang Temple was forcibly removed and taken away under mysterious circumstances in July 2006.
78. Deities from the Devi Sri Karumariaman Hindu Temple, Petaling Jaya Utara, Section 21, Kampung Taman Aman forcibly removed and left in a construction site.
79. Kaliamman Hindu Temple, Jalan Matin Batu 5 Seremban (more than 28 years) deities and temple bell was removed. (Nanban – 3.9.2006
Dear MIC,(MADIYAN IRUKAM CONGRESS) wat have u all done for the past 50years? is ur motto..to try to fill-up ur pockets & not looking into the welfare of the Indian community.where have u all been when the temple was demolished???
Now the PM & most ministers are voicing in the TV saying that the HINDRAF should voice up through the proper channel. Can the PM & the ministers define the way to the proper channel??? As HINDRAF has a ready applied for the permit through the correct channel WHY!!! it’s not being approved??? comment…
As said rally is not our culture? look at the UMNO youth lead by KHAIRI in July 2006 demostrating for human rights ,what a shame he was
making himself as a fool shouting there,why was he not arrested.
Is it b’cause he’s the PM disgraceful son-in-law,the role model for of the UMNO youth ,who can do what he likes.
Did everyone of U saw the Aljazeera news,saying the Indians had a peaceful rally,the police were the one’s who were very aggreasive towards the peaceful rally.
what a shame, foreigners describing the Indians as the peaceful group,
our govt.describing it as unlawful assembly.
Bolehland.
Well done fellow friends, brothers and sisters, its time for us to come out from the shell!!!
I don’t think hindraft or any Indian involve in the peace rally are against any individual religion, what “we†are standing for is to have an equal right and respect one(s) religion.
I think it is absurd to have the “son of bitchâ€(arggg…. can’t take it after watching the video) to tear down ones’ place of worship. If this were to happen to an Islamic community I am sure the rage will spike a fight in the name of “Jihad†which will lead to another epic of May 1969.
I am proud (I am sure many of us too) to see the Indian community lead by Wathaya Moorthy, Utahaya Kumar and his fellow friends had brought the dissatisfaction diligently and proof to the world what and how Malaysia government is treating the Indian community. Well I have been always against MIC, as a Indian congress party, they are suppose to be obliged to serve the Malaysian Indians and safeguard their welfare, but instead the greedy pigs were only looking at their own welfare. However there are some who genuinely helping the needy, but only hands full.We need more!!!!
I am Malaysian hindu, today I feel ashamed of having a useless government. I am hoping this can be an eye opener for the Indians, Chinese and the Malays on deciding the next government for Malaysia. As a voters right for a “Democratic Government†think wisely before you cast your vote. I have seen before the way government handles social and political issues. To keep short and concise the leaders are a bunch of goons.
At times I do think we should have never got independence and should be ruled by the British, which may have been better in rights.
I am VERY PROUD to see the NGO party “Hindraf†has voice out and leap forward and shown the Malaysian Indians as well as to the world “Malaysian Indian Needs Justiceâ€.
MIC last chance “Don’t always talk do action, learn from HindRAF†better change or be changed!!!!
Well done brothers. Jai HindRAF …!!!!
hi frenz,
Thank you Mr Singh. It is indeed true that we had began something to be embedded in history. For 50 years, my fellow Indians had been treated as 3rd class citizens. Not being given a fair chance,not being treated equal. Well, there u have it now. A fair trial for the government to address on. Who is bumiputra? People who were born in Malaysia , isn’t it. So, wHeRE did all my fellow Indians here were born? On the sky? Why the biase? The government could produce a 2 storey school for the Indonesians and be readily giving them an oppurtunity to be the citizen of this country but what happen to the fate of our Tamil schools? We have been with the BN all through this 50 years, marking the votes in line as the deciding party yet my fellow Indians here are treated as 3rd class nationalist. Why?
Whenever we go out of this country we will be refered to as Malaysian but only when we are inside Malaysia will we be called as Indians, Chinese… Why????
Its time to change the vote. My fellow Indians, time to re structure. Time to reform.
Valga HINDRAF. Valga Tamil.
wahai indian semua.. apasal nak cari pasal.. perlu di ingat ini bukan tanah air asal kamu . kira beruntung penduduk asal sini bertolak ansur terhadap kamu semua.. jika kamu di negara tidak akan merasa keistimewaan spt disini… mungkin nasib kamu jauh lebih teruk dari disini.. keistimewaan penduduk bumiputera di mana mana tpt pun begini… itu hak yang kamu patut tahu…. tak kira di mana mana di muka bumi yang merdeka.. wpun kami diam tidak bermakna kami takut….kamu lebih bernasib baik dari indian yg merempat di negara sendiri dan sanggup datang ke sini…kamu yang sudah mendapat pelbagai keistimewaan tidak pernah rasa beruntung … jangan buat pasal la… fikirlah baik baik sebelum bertindak ..
Saya orang melayu berasa amat marah dengan tindakan pimpinan sekarang yang dikatakan sebanagai”langai”.masih ingatkah semasa pemerintahan British?.dua perkara yang paling mereka perlu jauhi untuk mengelakkan dari kena bunuh dan mati katak ialah.kedaulatan raja-raja melayu dan kepercayaan agama.Apa yang dikesalkan sekarang.pimpinan sekarang seolah-olah ingin menjadi lebih dari british!surau dirobohkan dan kuil dimusnahkan!.Orang india adalah kaum yang sensitif..kuil merupakan rumah pertama mereka…jangan cuba bermain api!.Walaupun lain-lain kepercayaan tetapi itu hak anda(orang india).cuma pada dua persimpangan awasilah gerak-geri pembelot yang cuba mengapi-apikan melayu dan india.janganlah disebabkan kambing hitam yang gemuk seekor..sekandang kamping kita bakar!
As a Malaysia Indian living in Germany,i belive as an Indian,we always will get justic,!! frm Gandi ji till Shilpa Shetty.We are the most peacefull religion in the world.this is really matter for us this time to Demostrate,as i saw the news internasionaly,the whole world on Hindus side.but, the malays did not realize that The whole world hate muslim,we shut fight for our justic Now before it too late,i live in Germany,and here everybody get treated the same they dont care about skin colour or where do u come from.im so proud of being Indian,i get respect in europe only being Indian,Hindu.Our people all around the World,Justic always on the good side.I do my best here. sending this news around europe about what happend to our people.
shame on you s.vello…>
u see i sure will win….> dielah u……>
no vote for BN……>
without UMNO or BN, u indians will rot in hell.
first of all, malaysia isn’t a democratic country, so stop acting as if it is. secondly, deal with it, ure lucky enough u indians are allowed to stay malaysians and live in a peaceful country.
ure acts are only provoking other races to act against ure own.
lastly, WHAT CAN YOU DO?
if ure not happy, come and get us. i dare u indians, come and get us.
u are probably only 15% of the country’s population, think again.
i’ll laugh to the day i see all u indians crumble because of ure stupidity by forcing ure way to let the government hear ure whining.
salam ///
I really appreciate what Hindraf did yesterday.They are real freedom fighter, who has sent clear message to malay and some chinese that they are not going to tolerate any more from them. some more what i am expecting is after few more demonstration, chinese will rise their voice as well so government have to listen.
what happened in past (Malay chinese war) that is difference but what will happen that is gonna make big difference in Malaysia. It is not malay indian war it is war for rights and freedom. so My full support to Hindraf and malaysian Indian . Thank you.
don’t be stupid wasting your time on the street…at least we got some sits from BN rather than nothing if we go independently…thinkllah dey
correct 100%!! we make a big mistake….if they retaliate, we get much more problem. we are minority and we are far more better compare to what we achieve last 30 years or if we stay in India itselve
to Mr.UMNO-BN ….your statement really shows that you are not educated. Come on Man…..u see whoa re the most richest man in Malaysia who brought up Malaysia economy…..it is Indians and Chinese….Anandha Krishanan. But we always say it Malaysia did it….not Indian did it.
I think if we ( indians and chinese ) are not here…you will end up be like Indonesia
I have more then 100,000 Sikh Members in my Organization… Shall we join forces and hold another demonstration… This time we do it the Sikhs way with a lot of transparency… And we will see how the government react…
They cannot blame the Indian Community for the rally.. Its the FRU who should be blamed for cousing such a insult to the participants of the rally..
You’ll should sue the FRU for the damages coursed to you…
Its now time that we teach the Nation who we are….
MIC – The croonies of UMNO.
LOOK AT THEM, WITH THEIR FAT BELLIES, STILL GOING AROUND AND GADAI OUR MARUAH. EVERY INDIAN IN THIS COUNTRY SHOULD REJECT MIC & BN. WE HAVE SUFFERED ENOUGN. SHABAS UTHAYA. WE NEED LEADERS LIKE YOU. WE ARE WILLING TO SACRIFICE OUR LIFE FOR THE GOOD CAUSE.
**** ALL HINDUS in MALAYSIA. GO TO **** WITH YOUR ELEPHANTS AND YOUR COWS. **** U ALL!
I had a fun time reading wat everyone had to say about this issue. Its good to see that everyone’s emotionally charged about it. However, I dun care for those who are vulgar as they only show their sad upbringing. Howevr, to the ones with cultivated personalities, by speaking out with great thoughts beforehand and excellent emotional control, u are the people that should be the representative of the Indian community. I am a malaysian. and a malay. I have many gud indian and chinese buddies as i do have many great malay friends. Could i kindly request that we use tolerable language when emphasizing points. same advice to my malay friends. Dun tell anybody to get lost. By the way, what do the limeys care anyway about us?
hei ,shut ur baldy mouth,tis country is not ur country,it belongs to org asli,if we indian get out frm tis country malaysia will be a poor country,no country will giv u bisnez,so jus shut ur baldy mouth n perfi duduk kampung.tak malu punya org,bapa rogol anan sendiri punya bangsa.
APA SEMUA DAH GILA KE? NAK TENGOK YOUR FAMILY KILLED BY YOUR NEIGHBOURS? STOP IT! MALAY POPULATION IS 80% YET INDIAN MERELY 8 %… STOP THIS QUARELL ONLY THE CHINESE ARE LAUGIHNG !!
yes just kill al the malays and chinese
you all can have this country alone
apa tunggu lagi sabit lah semua kepala melayu dan cina tu
korang kan boleh
cepatlah bunuh kami semua
Ithink now indian’s get change for get our rites.So as a indian we must fight for our rites.Mr.Uthaya valga and Mr.Samy Vello oliga.I think Mr.UTHAYA is best choice for the president MIC party not Mr.Samy Vello.
Hi to all INDIANS,
What HINDRAF did on 25th Nov was a good start to expose reality and awareness among INDIANS. The whole world looking at us today. We have proven that we can stand UNITED.
Mr. Uthayakumar, as a Indian I really thank for the action.
NOW, LETS COME TO THE POINT..
1. We do not need to blame MIC… THEY CAN’T DO, BUT THERE IS SOMEONE CAN DO. We support HINDRAF, forget about MIC then.
We appreciate whatever that he did for us. But now we realized we will be better under HINDRAF. Lets think about that..stop fighting each other. We are wasting time. We have freedom let us choose the correct person now.
2. Let us join the opposition to rule the country. Im sure Mr.Uhayakumar will do a good job, representing INDIAN. We have seen BN ruling for many years, let us see what opposition party have for us.
3. PLEASE STOP BLAMING THE MALAYS. Please understand, it is not Malays policy that you all are frustrated, actually it is the UMNO policy. It is the government’s policy. Let us protest that, not keep on blaming the individual Malays. Malays are also in dissatisfaction. They are also sad with what happen to the temples.
4. Let us be UNITED, and FIGHT for our RIGHTs in PEACE.
HINDRAF is there for us..I BELIEVE AND I EXPERIENCED THAT.
ANWAR IBRAHIM, UTHAYA KUMAR, LIM KIT SIANG can substitute the current formation.
WE NEED REFORMATION.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HIHDRAF vaalge hindraf!!!! vaalge mr.uthayakumar!!!! we wan justice!!!!
samy veloo ollige!!!!MY full support to Hindraf….â€as hindu samutayam†all must thing along time lief, not short time lief….please given full support to our lawyer p.uthayakumar
Just been reading all the comments..
I can see mixed emotion.. People.. pls dont misunderstand.. MIC or any other Indian based party not doing anything for the indians.. They are busy fighting each other ( MIC & PPP).. all the parties of the other races join forces if they feel they been abused.. Hindraf have brought back unity amongst Indian.. Something that is had to do.. Some say the rally was bad, i say it was a good.. unity amongst indian are back.. Hindraf asked only an hour for the peaceful rally.. The police denied that.. Roadblock were everywhere.. this cause more havoc as people were rushing for work.. If the police had given way for the rally.. The rally should have ended by 10.30 am and in a peaceful way.. Life could be simpler that way.. i was there are the rally.. i saw people giving way for the traffic to pass by.. they were very peaceful.. problem only started after police force fired tear gas and water cannon.. people ran away for cover.. due to that, several damages were done… this was not plan.. do not believe every thing you see and hear, find out what was the truth..
LONG LIVE MALAYSIAN
Hoi, kepada Aku Melayu…. *EDITED BY MODERATOR* Melayu dapat gred 3 SPM pun boleh masuk U” macamana ni. Mungkin sebab melayu bodoh dan oleh kerana tu la kena masuk U baru lah ada otak sikit. Semua kerja kerajaan melayu ni yang dapat boleh lah sembang2, makan dan tidor. Uncle Samy Vellu cukup la dgn u punya drama, pergi jaga anak bini engkau… Keluarga sendiri pun engkau tak boleh jaga ni kan pula nak jaga kaum india di seluruh MALAYSIA. dah tua lah u Uncle samy pls give others chance to be a MIC Leader…
Hello,
Please come to our senses. Do not call other races by names, it is not the civilised way. If we want respect we must respect others whatever they say about us. Indians are an emotional race, sometimes events happenning in malaysia hurts us we react with looking at the consequences.Of course we r 3rd class citizen in Malaysia, Everybody knows it. The Malays know it.
The problem started before many of u were born, when Tun Sambathan and gang exchanged our rights to get 3rd class Malaysian citizenship for special privelages for the Bumiputras. The Bumis are never never going to give up their special privelages.If the Indians were bumi we would do the same. Now the Indians are underclass minority. By demonstating Hindraf have made the point, but further demonstrations will force the goverment to take sterner action including shooting orders. Moreover criminal elements will join in ,and unnecessary lives Indian lives be lost and the leaders of Hindraf will end up in ISA. None of us want that.
Suing the British goverment,as many of you think as flimsy,is not what it seems to be. The suit indirectly accusses the Malaysian Goverment of not taking care of the ethnic minorities and is an embarrassment to the Malysian goverment
Nobody is going to get a penny! But the idea was ingenious, getting attention to your cause. I take off my hat for Uthay kumar.
There are few facts you must realise about Malaysia
1.Malaysia is not UK /India in terms of democracy. You have limited freedom only and very little political freedom.
2. UMNO has been in power for so long , no party inthe world has held power for that long they are obviosly very corrupt. They really dont care for the poor malays and worse for the poor Indians and Chinese .
3.We cannot blame the malays for the indians being marginalised. Even with so much privelages the are many who are poor, drug addiction is highest among them. It is the UMNO goverment that have failed them. YAB Badawi is a reasonable man, If Mahathir was here HIndraf leaders will be under ISA. Dr. Mahathir is the PM who did not lift a finger to help the Indians. He is the architect of Indian marginalisation . Samy Veloo is his henchman Maika and so on the list is endless.He is just a mandore. If there is no benefit for Indians when MIC being in the Barisan then Samy should leave the Barisan but he loves his post more than he loves Indians for 25 years he hepped in the destruction of the Indians.
4. Goverment jobs more or less closed to non malays. Anyway no point going for govr jobs , as you will seldom be promoted.
and they are lowly paid.
5. Private sector is mainly controlled by the Chinese and they prefer to take their own kind.Remember The Chinese are also 3rd class citizens
How can we stop this marginalisation?
There are no easy solutions but these are some suggestions.
a. indians have to go into businees, any business. Easier to say than done. Capital is hard to come by. Licences are controlled by the goverment, Many of my Chinese frieds use Bumi license to do business of course they pay the Bumis.
b. Every parent must give 100% priority to the children’s education. and save money to to private colleges. Forget about govt institutions they are for the Bumis. Make full use of the PTPN loan
c.We must look at our selves too, Drinking habits is common among Indians, many are alcoholics , we too must change our mindset. the indianss are a smart race , but we must persevere
Many parents do pay attention to their chidren, movies . astro etc take the front seat. We must have a one track mind to suceed in life. Some indianss are taking Mandrin classes so tthat they can work in the private sector or do business with them. We must learn skills to prpare for life.
d. Personally I think the Indians would not get ang tangible benefit from demonstations etc. It can only bring attention to our plight and no more. Soon all these will be forgotten and the world moves on. so brothers and sisters think what u can do to upgrade youself.
To all brother& sister of hindraf,
I’m happy after listening to many story that i have heard frm my friends the brave young and old has come together to bring hope to new race we call it hindraf,hindraf is not reply to today’s people but for next generation…now Indian in malaysia can survive tank God.
jxc
Vanakam,
Y did we came here? We were brought in to DEVELOPE this country, by who??? All of us know that crab. Y this country needs to be developed back then? Must be bcause of many reasons,, exp like, the existing people there can’t contribute 4 developments.
So we came here, built roads, tapped rubber, railroad works, harvested palm oil,general labours 4 generations, generally till now most of indian consider the hard core labour though now they wear tie and smart attire for work.
Then independent, systems created by the gov since then. everthing is established as it is now. whatever, however, whichever way & etc…. right ways we do. It will not be justified. The results of the system has already taken place and its so strong.
Its so strong that it does need us anymore!! The system has made this situation to make us suppressed and oppressed/ discriminated & so on. Now they are blessed with all, till they want us out or vanish eaten by time (thats how the system works). I dont think we can change it! byk susah “dah melarat” till the roots.
Even in companies retrenchment they got VSS plans, compensations & etc..before the sack their workers. But here politicians, office collegue, bloogers, virtually all non-indian, wants indian “balik kampung”(India), everytime we voice out. What shall we do?? Like this let the british government compensate us n we “balik kampung” once for all. If not Malaysian Government pay us compensation, of cause considerate amount lah, we consider to balik!! for 150 year contribution of nation building!!! U needed our help back then not we wanted help badly then!!
But i think if we cabut, u’ll suffer also!! Histroy will repeat!! U’ll bring in Indon, bangla n etc to work here,,of cause to work 4 u lah! n the rest u figure out!! Worst, u might have to go oversea to work as maids to support family.
Anyway its up to you, you tahu semua kan. best of luck.
Its nice to stay in Malaysia 4 many reasons. A person cant live without dignity and disgraced by other for long. And sorry about the 600 year old mosque demolition, i regret on that. but i dont know wheather its in india’s constitution to respect others religion, the minority there should voice out and do something. I too regret the demolition of the Buddist statue in Afganistan by the Talibans, i think 1500 year old statue. What waste of monuments.
And please don’t compare us with our Indian brothers aboard in homeland. I think they are living with dignity and gracefully though they merempatâ€(homeless). Nobody has the right to look down on them. If we didn’t come here, the fact u would have “merempat†and begging. Have thought about that!!!!! Dun be narrow minded!! Though out numbered!! Of course Indian can’t fight u all!! That is not always an indian’s intention. U are so big, if cant don’t bully us like that!!
What can we do now!!!?? Many thing, refer the ideas given by our bloggers above! Many bla! bla!! thing i mentioned above, please dont take personal. i believe indians are an valuable asset or all (do not waste them), hope we can contribute more to this country. Indian can do wonders, let them spread their wings of sincerity, loyalty and genius. Peace and cheers to all.
Vanakam kawan2
To all Hindus, please act pro. This not going to solve problem. why don’t combine all Indian intelligent to developed or create a system that can change our majorities mind set and life structure for next 5,10,15,20-30 years. Demonstrations on the road are totally not a right way, its not going to work. here is not like India, in India u can do a road demo coz they is hundreds of parties there which can create our own government. Here in Malaysia is different. Only diplomatically is working here. Even our first Prime Minister tunku abdul rahman done that. And I totally not agree that Malaysian government not treat Indian community well. Just look around, how many rich Indian people here, its uncountable… so what the problem. I do agree that Indian community it’s the lowest in economical sector, but don’t blame the government, try to learn blame our self. How many Indian families in Malaysia try to produce their next generation family to a better live. such as good in education? Motivate them economically, mentally, educationally, emotionally to be a better then former generation… how many of them? Think all that. The only things that we can see that our past generations have developed or create lots of VIJAY, RAJNIKHAN, SURYA and few more. has they full force try to developed an engineer? Lawyer? doctor? businessman? Teacher? and other professionals job or at least a good human been. Like my self im from one of estate in perak from a poor family, not really good at first in education, but now I have changed it to be somebody. So guys pls don’t just follow few desperate individual with their agenda. We have to change our life without depending on government. STAND ON OUR OWN FEED
Dei Siva Anna,
Unnal Mudiyalana waiya mudiketu summa eru.
Hmm….after reading the countless back-and-forth of harted-filled comments on the Hindraf videos posted on Youtube, and reading all this, I don’t know what to say anymore. I guess, every Indian has seen the truth by now, and should know what is the right thing to do. In a way, it’s a good thing the rally took place….otherwise a lot of issues would have never come to the surface.
People are saying, vote for the opposition. Someone brought up the issue, that even if the ruling party doesn’t win, the votes may be rigged in favour of the ruling party.
After all, who is in power, and who is in charge of counting the votes?
My best advice: Indians, try as best to bring yourselves up, work hard and earn and try to get educated as much as you can, and eventually ‘leave’. There are greener pastures elsewhere, and I refuse to be treated like a third-class piece of garbage. Why bother being proud of and fighting for a nation that does not value us? Why should we fight for this land? What do we have here? No respect, no freedom, no democracy, no unity.
valga hindaf.PERAH KETALAY ATERUTHU ELAI………
I think we seriously need to change our leader, perhaps we need young, educated, vibrant and professional and a man who truly cares for the community and not greedy and selfish. Though I am in full support of Hindraf but there are serious underlying problems that the community is facing and if not addressed the indian community will sink in no time. Firstly on the issue of temples, yes I agree that i condemn the demolishing but there are temples appearing overnight but some ruthless people who wants to make money or for other selfish reasons. They even lure the uneducated and even the educated ppl to occult practices. Our society is still very much in believe of such things. Temples shld be well managed and all monies collected from the public must be accounted and audited. Aren’t there guidelines by Hindu organizations as to where a temple can be built and are temples allowed in the car porch built by some residents who do not care for the multiracial neighbours. I strongly feel that temples in Malaysia shld come under one jurisdiction maybe Maha Mariammman Temple Jln Bandar or under any hindu sangam and all temples must be registered and funds shld be allocated by govt as social responsibility.not every tom , dick and harry starts building his own temple in his neighbourhood.
Secondly, on issues of tamil school, I really wish someone will take statistics of succesful people who had education from tamil school for the last 20 years. The condition could have been better and it may have produced indian professionals 20 yrs ago but someone tell me in the last 20 yrs what is happenning to the state of our tamil school, we are producing more gangsters and poorly performing students who fail badly when they join the national schools for their secondary education. I am always against the idea of Tamil schools as I think we shld transfer all the teachers in tamil to national schools and we must insist to the education ministry to have a mandatory tamil class taught during Ugama classes and all tamil students must pass tamil language at all national level examinations. I believe we shld have more hindu sanggam organizing hindu samayam classes like mengaji by the Islam student where they attend from the age of 3 (if not mistaken) to 17 to learn and understand our hindu culture. Make this mandotary. Parents are the main person to cultivate and nurture good children, so culture shld start from home. We must also address the alcohol, gansterism, occult believe, gaming (magnum, 3D etc),overall wrong priorities of indian families such as an indian would borrow money to have a grand wedding but will not do so for an education, they don’t mind spending money on expensive clothes but will not invest in a computer I can go on on on but these are things will push us backwards to 50yrs ago when other races are building business empires and sending ppl to space. Where are we heading to. I am saddend of the state of indians in sub-urbs and urban areas. Uthaya Kumar please do something abt all that I mentioned. I feel indians in Msia shld stop complaining abt our leader and forget abt MIC and as indian everyone shld wake up and support any individual is working towards the betterment of indian at large. To Udaya Kumar I am not interested in the money but certainly in a change and I believe you can and will.
hi,,,indian makkal,
I really appreciate what Hindraf did yesterday.They are done a good job!,sir ,we will support 100% to “Hindraf Team”Let us be UNITED, and FIGHT for our RIGHTs in PEACE.
First and foremost our comunity must realise that SamyVelu is not doing us a favour, whatever he is doing for the community is his job. He was put there because we elected him. He is not helping the community from his pocket. he owes it to us because by electing him we have put the future of the comunnity in his hands but what has he done. If he cannot protect the most sacred temple from being demolished – do you think he is going to protect us.
He has just cooly sat and watched as our fellows indian were brutality humilated and abused physically and mentally during the Hindraf rally. He should hve backed us up – we were not against the government all we wanted was to to hand the memorandum to the british embassy – I dont understand why is the goverment so agitated by this a mere action of handing over the memorandum.
Or is it that the goverment fears we Indians are becoming vocal and need to be suppresed and controlled.Whatever the case it is just the begining of good things to come COZ as indians we have shown we are united and we are not going to take things lying down anymore moreso when destruction is to our temple.
We as Indian can live a life of a poor but not without self-respect and dignity.
Dear brothers and sisters,
Firstly, i would like to stat after a long time, i’m now very proud of my fellow people! Yes, we did make the world take notice! but please don’t do the others, what you don’t want to be done on you. We were saying we are following the ” GANDHI JI ” way. Was it his way to utter degradatory and foul languages onto others!I certaintly agree with the view that we are not against the malays, but the system and the policies by the ruling govt. If you want to label the malays such, first you have to look at our very own WEALTHY indians who are ignoring the very rights we are fighting for! How many of them were in the rally!
Be it Malay, Chinese or indian we are the same. My humble request is’ please do not condemn the other races ( vice versa ). I’m also one of those effected by the marginalisation, but please do it the right way. Please do not let the emotions control us.
I also wish to thank HINDRAFF for doing what i thought was impossible ( to unite us INDIANS! ).Forget MIC or the others. We’ve already put them to shame.Let’s think about our next course of action ( this time without bloodshed )!
As for out govt. please stop educating the west on moral principals, educate yourself first!
JAI HIND !
Mr.utaya kumar and his gang did a wonderful job….but the sad thing is i cannot join wit u all on last sunday…dont worry..on next time i will be there 4 support u…coz this is not 4 my mother,father or 2 my friends…but this 4 our next generation….
HIDUP UTAYA KUMAR AND THE GANG……..
VAZGA,,UTAYA KUMAR….AND OTHER SUPPORTERS….
well ppl…just show all dis anger & dissapointment in the comin election! vote 4 de rite person!!! oh n by de way don bother of not gettin a job in de gov sector! no use workin 4 less pay but more rest…10am bkfast, 1pm lunch, 4pm tea break then chiow! v live active lifestyle so dis job don suit us indians!!! so don grieve bout it!! think smart wen u put de x next time :)
dey siva,listen to me ‘elayah irukalam anah kolayah irukekudateh.
Even though it is most unlikely for us Indians to win the lawsuit, but I think we have proved a point through the rally. We have successfully created the much needed awareness. I’m so proud to witness a vast number of Indians demonstrating unity and striving for the same goal for once. Lets stick together and fight for our well deserved rights. I think its high time that we stop being ignorant. University quota system and bumiputra status should be demolished rather than our temples.
Dear brothers and sisters,
I would like to thank our Malay and Chinese brother for understanding our predicament. If any of us have hurt your feelings in any way we extend our appologies! Let’s join hands and fight together for the same cause. ” The fight against injustice, regardless of race ”
May our children have a peaceful and bright future!
Thank you MALAYSIANS!
JAI HIND!
my dearest friend,
it is about the time to make changest…
HINDRAF PlEASE tAKE oVER MIC and be our leader…
MIC IS NOT FUNCTIONING AT ALL TO SOLVE PROBLEM…
pEOPLE LIKE U (TOP 3 HINDRAF) MUST BE OUR LEADER…
WE WILL GIVE FULL SUPPORT TO U “HINDRAF”…
good luck and my best wishest to u HINDRAF…
–rr,kl–
VALLGA TAMILS N HINDUS,
We Will EVEN DIE FOR HINDRAF. P.UTHAYA KUMAR, P.WAYTHAMOORTHI,GANAPATHI RAO, M MANOHARAN,GANGADHARAN and all
organizers of HINDRAF congrates. I want to come that day but my father refused to bring me. He went alone. At last my prayer is answered by the lord from the day TEMPLE in Shah Alam was demolished. We success in made the gathering. TAMILS now proved that We are the real WARRIOR. No ARMY FORCE,GUNS,BOMS will not threat our willpower. Congrates to those arrested u people r the real TAMIL AND INDIANS who dare to face anything.We will stand behind you.
Now the truth will speak itself automatically. Let the world see now what is a real MALAYSIA which was said democratic country. All the malay ministers of BN government is useless,stupid,idiots and always twisting real true stories and talking bullshit in parliment.
To the MALAYS, we INDIANS actually not blaming u people for what happened to us in 50 years, it is UMNO leaders. The 99.9% of MALAYS do not know what happened behind the screen againts INDIANS in this country which carried by UMNO,BN,and MALAYSIAN POLICE.
SAMY VELU is the real culprit behind all that happened before againts indians. He is the PAWNBROKER AND TRAITOR of the INDIAN rights to the UMNO.SAMY VELU SHAMLESS FELLOW.
Selangor Menteri Besar one of them who prove it….31st Oktober 2007 The Hindu Temple (SHAH ALAM) was demolished without the court order.In 50 years 15,000 our hindu temple demolished and also 327 tamil school gone. If u say what ISRAEL and ZUES did againts PALESTIN is wrong and sin, the same as what UMNO did to the INDIANS.
If U MALAYS even don have own religous (import from Arab), Own LANGUAGE & CULTURE (Romanised,Copied,theft) from Tamil,English,Hindhi,Sanskrit)and act to the world as civilised people now, what about we INDIANS who are recognised by the world thousand years ago as the most brilliant and civilised society even before christ.Don u read history of the world. Wait n see we will prove it to the MALAYSIANS again.
The truth is we already ask the BN and MIC in the right way
and acording to the law. But there is no reply and no use asking to the STUPID government and SHAMLESS SAMYVELU (MOTTAI).HINDRAF have its own way and now body can stop us.
VAIMAIYE VELLUM………..
Dear fellow Malaysian,
Datuk Seri Samy will remain as who he was, he deliver result to the many Indians, he provide proper channel, he moderate the power in the Government and in the economy. This is not hooligan job, it’s real hard work and inteligent, amicable, long term and respecful approach to present the minority in numbers and powers. Everyone in the power now has been tackfull to dealt with multiracial issues in Malaysia context. It’s not easy job likewise the oppositor blowing hot air creating disharmony to the majority. It’s okay to fight for Your right ! Malaysian right ! majority right ! whom have the power right ! rich and poor people right ! but only through proper channel, amicable, harmony, civilize, respect, not selfish, moderate and tackfull. For those who support and involve in Hindraf hooliganism, you all have to pay the price of the damage. Government sure will help, Datuk Seri Samy sure will help, but those races who affected by your behavior will not forget, I’ll not forget, the whole next generation will not forget, that for some political mileage of oppositor survival, the whole Nation has been put to a shame. People will re-evaluate who is Indian Hindu is all about, what values they cultivate, what their pride towards nation building, what their view towards Malay and Chinese the core in power races in Malaysia. You will get what you want and what you don’t want too … the price you all Indian have to pay for Hindraf hooliganism.
This is a sad sad month for Malaysia. Even after 3 protest, the first is 2,000 lawyers going to Putrajaya, 2nd is BERSIH with 40,000 people to hand letter to King and now 20,000 people marching in KLCC my god, when is UMNO going to understand that the rakyat is getting feed-up of UMNO??? All these marchers are from all races which includes the poor melayu, the poor chinese and the poor indians. How come UMNO people are all rich? MCA are also rich? and MIC Sami Veloo acts like a billionaire?? that’s because they have plundered all our rakyat’s taxpayers money and also our EPF. I can see a lot of MCA politicians driving BMW while the poor chinese have to struggle selling VCDs to make a living. I can see Khairi Jamaluddin the son-in law of PM driving a sports car and also staying in a bangalow worth millions of dollars, do you think Khairi earns it wif sweat??? dun you think it comes from the rakyat’s taxpayers money?? So why are Malaysians still so stupid to contribute taxes?? Because they are afraid of UMNO. Seems like UMNO and the govt is extorting money from the rakyat, how many billions is going to the pockets of these UMNO cronies – we can see for ourself with mega projects while the poor nelayan and poor melayu farmers still live in the attap house. Do you think Barisan National is helping us rakyat?? Think again…..look see who is driving mercedes and BMWs?????
Dear UMNO Cronies, I am impress that you still support UMNO when there’s so many melayu being poor. I guess we malays can see the difference between UMNOputra(rich) and Bumiputra(poor) Do we need UMNO?? My dad is actually a farmer in Melaka but not an UMNO member. So there’s no handouts from UMNO whatsoever cause my family didn’t join UMNO. But then again, being a traditional farmer and breeder, kita keluarga tak payah begantung kepada UMNO. It would be an insult to melayu or us malays to depend on UMNO for handouts. So the answer is do we still need UMNO?? NO. Second, while I agreed with UMNO Cronies that a lot of pakistani and bangladeshi and also indonesians are coming to Malaysia to work, you also see a lot of Malaysians migrating to other countries and doing better then most Malaysians here. Even 1/3 of Singapore are powered by Malaysians who work in Singapore(most of them chinese Malaysians) The world is a free market beyond boundaries, people can go to anywhere to work. Base on statistics, there are more indians and parkistani going to UK to work compare to coming to Malaysia(base on statistics 2005/2006) why some bangladeshi and pakistani cannot go into France or Italy is because the govt have ban them from entering. But our Malaysian govt encourage them to come to Malaysia, so there’s an influx of foreigners here. Unfortunately, the past few weeks, our Govt have canceled a foreign partnership between Proton and Volkwagen. And also force telenor to surrender their major shareholding in DIGI to maintain their telco license in Malaysia. Why not ask the pakistani, indonesians and also Bangladeshis to invest in DIGI shares and also Proton??? Hey, UMNO Cronies, the only reason pakistanis, indonesians and bangladeshis are coming to Malaysia is because they want to find a job and sent money back to their own country lar. Just because they come to Malaysia and work does’nt means that they hate their own country and love Malaysia. UMNO Cronies, Please have soon logic when you argue on statistics. Well our govt did try to encourage americans,russians, scotlands, aussies and also chinese to come to Malaysia to work but unfortunately the pay is too low that’s why no australians are coming to Malaysia to work. UMNO Cronies, pls use your brains, the foreigners dun come to Malaysia because they love Malaysia, they come to Malaysia to make money and sent money back to their own country. If the Bangladeshis really love Malaysia, they would have given up the Bangladesh citizenship and apply for citizenship here by marrying a malay.
Lastly, UMNO Cronies…It is not me who is bitching about UMNO, the whole world is laughing at UMNO cause UMNO is so proud to send a space tourist to space under a russian spaceship(not so patriotic to travel in a russian ship rite) and still be proud, hahahaha do you know the money spend on sending this so called angkasawan using a russian ship to space can feed thousands of poor malaysians for many years??? UMNO is bringing shame to orang melayu and and shame to Malaysia. To let you know, I myself feel ashamed to be a bumiputra. Do you still feel proud, UMNO cronies??? Once again, it is not patriotic that our Angkasawan sits on a space ship that belongs to Russia. It is patriotic that our Angkasawan sits on a Proton spaceship to go to space. So where did all the taxpayer money goes??? Off course to UMNO’s cronies pocket!!!
>To all my indian guys, i hope u guys get note with all the memo gave by others. Watever we gain from MIC, not bad somethings is there. But here, i can say that they must be agresif like HINDRAF. HANDS UP FOR U. Congrats for all the lawyers, u done a great job… Hope we wont stop our journey.
Jus keep breaking the ice on UMNO, MIC or watever.
>Make our next generation to be great. Hope they get all the facilities..WELL DONE, the support sure will be there.
>SAMY VELU, hehehe….u plz stop talk nonsence, get a hell from UMNO, let someone else, talented, agresif, motivated, and initiatif take over ur job….they can done the job too..
>im not blame anyone..but look for a great future for our indians….
>ALL THE BEST GUYS.
>THE SUPPORT IS THERE
Malays and Chinese has credible leaders that contribute to their races well being, their effort is still on going, so to speak “perjuangan masih jauh”, same goes to other races Sarawak and Sabah origin. Indian have limited leadership, and split into numbers of minorities. Be united, choose the right leader to deal with the power in goverment. I think the fight spark by Hindraf will deliver good and lasting result.
If you Indian choose to shout, curse, chantting racism remark .. others can do it as well, they can do it even better, they can impose damage, they are the majority, they have resources, cool down, you have convey your message clearly, that about it, goverment is paying attention. But you all Indian act as Malaysian, don’t act like you all are INDIA Indians. You still want to live harmony and in peace with other races in Malaysia right ? so please be aware of your words and cursing, it will bring harm to your own people. Racial unrest is not the way forward … believe me , every one will regret it if that happen.
u all are great hindraf……semoga tuhan jaga anda semua….masyarakat india di malaysia…..tolong bangun la…jgn gaduh sesama sendiri….
(be indian….recpect indian…..help indian)
samy vellu just get loss…..
Do we want our country to be like Yugoslavia? All broken up with thousands of lives lost in the name of ethnicsm? Mosques and churches destroyed and burnt to the ground?
I served there to see it all happened along with my fellow Malaysian soldiers made up of Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus and Taoists.
Feel free to voice your dissatisfaction but please do it in the ballot votes. Out vote those you feel have not been serving the interests of your community.
Though I was not there when the 2 protests happened, I also understand why the police had to react when clear cut instructions have been made for protestors to dispel.
This happened in Bosnia when large groups of Bosnian Croats demonstrated and we had to use the necessary reactive force after repeated calls for them to disperse.
We need to look at all viewpoints before we use the word brutalism and I am surprised that the opposition was quiet when police officers were injured but were quick to criticise when the police reacted after repeated calls for the crowd to dispel.
If you do not respect the police…then how on earth would you expect the police to serve you if you do not respect what they are doing!!!
The police is slowly turning into a credible force though they have to do a lot of work beyond their scope while facing daily unnecessary barrage of unconstructive criticism from the public, particularly the opposition.
This isnt about the malays, the chinese, the indians, the muslims, the christians, the hindus, the taoists or any race nor religion… this is about unhappiness at the wat the so called representative did not do what and why they were voted for.
And yes…. suraus are also demolished as much as any temples that stand in the way of development but usually – the existance of 2 separate commitees of these religious houses that normally creaates the trouble – not the authorities nor the devotees!
There are rich and poor malays, indians, chinese and other races everyhwere from Sarawak to Kelantan…. but perhaps we can blame the system but what about the stories we heard and read about the rags to riches? If we lent our time to complaining and complaining – then we would never rise up.
Can anyone promise everyone that P.UTHAYA KUMAR if voted as the most powerful man in the cabinet to represent the Indians will not be corrupted like those in power? No one can tell the future but we – malays, chinese, indians etc of all religions can help set things straight by behaving with Malaysian manner – not mob manner – obey and respect the law while waiting patiently for the day when your voices are heard through the ballot box.
What if protests after protests begin to surface at anything after this? Do we want the much respected malaysian harmony be replaced with the tribal mentality like they had in the old Yugoslavia and also in some parts of Africa?
No one wants to come to Malaysia and people of all level – race and religion – will suffer because we need business to thrive in an environment that is safe for both the buyers and sellers.
The government has heard – so be patient.
I personally DO NOT TRUST anyone who is not there to lead any protest right from the beginning…have you heard of any leaders doing that anywhere in the world????
And personally, I never trust any leaders that groom their sons or son in laws to replace them in the party – that is nepotism and cronysm!!!
So…. go on…. go to your nearest mamak teh tarek stall and show the world that Diversity colours the World and Thank God that indeed we are different but united.
GUY’S ITS OUR NATION OUR RELIGON…. WE DO HAVE FULL RIGHTS TO FIGHT FOR JUSTICE……. I’M GLAD AND HAPPY THAT AT LEAST OUR PEOPLE HAS WAKE UP NOW…… BECAUSE OF OUR GREAT GRANDPARENTS JUST KEEP QUIET AND FOLLOW WHAT THE GOVERMENT SAID…. NOW US SUFFERING….. CANT GET A PLACE IN UNIVERSITI EVENT U GOT 10 A1′S…….. CANT FIND A JOB AFTER UR STUDYS…………….. EVENT WHEN U BUY HOUSE’S… THEY HAVE DIFRENTS BETWEEN BUMIPUTRA PRICES AND NON BUMI….. WHY IS THAT………????????????? OUR GRANDPARENTS HAD FIGHT FOR OUR COUNTTRY ALSO RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!
AND ABOUT THE TEMPLE……………….
WE CAN SEE WITH OUR OWN EYE’S…. WHATS HAPPENING AROUND US…
ALL THE STATE.. TOWN…. CITY… EVENT VILLAGES HAS AT LEAST 2 OR 3 PRAYES PLACE’S FOR THE MUSLIM…… AND ALL WAS FULLY SPONSERED BY OUR GOVERMENT…. AND EVERY MONTH THEY RECEIVE UPGREATING AND MAINTANACE FEE FOR THEM……. BUT WE NEVER ASK ANYTHING……..
BECAUSE WE TRY OUR OWN TO COLLECT FUND FOR OUR TEMPLE’S BETWEEN US… AND AFTER COLLECTING FOR ABOUT 4 TO 5 YEARS… SO HARD AND SO CONPLICATED OUR PEOPLE BUILD ON THEIR OWN….. WE DID WHAT THE GOVERMENT SHOULD DO FOR US….. BUT… INSTED OF HELPING US THEY ARE DESTROYING OUR HARD WORK AND OUR CULTURE AND……… MAINLY OUR GOD…………. WHO ARE THEY TO TOUCH OUR GOD?????????????????????
IMPORTAND… PLEASE READ…………
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NO ONE HAD EVER TOUCH OUR TEMPLE’S BEFORE………….
BUT AFTER ONCE DATO SRI BROGHT FEW PEOPLE FROM INDIA AND TIRED UP OUR GODS POWER AND LET THEM DISTROY OUR TEMPLE’S ONLY THEY STARTED………..
ITS A WARNING TO ALL…..
DON’T EVER EVER PLAY WITH GOD’S POWER….. THEY WONT HAVE A GOOD DEATH!!!!!!!!!!
IF THIS KEEP ON GOING AND OUR HINDUS KEEP ON TRETED BY GOVERMENT LIKE THIS…………
I’M SURE ONE DAY OUR GOD CANT STAND AND WILL SHOW THEM WHAT WILL HAPPENT… BUT DEAR HINDU’S OUR GOD MIGHT NOT CAME AND SHOW THEM……
BUT………. THEY WILL SEND US….. WE WILL PROTECT OUR HINDU’S…………….
WE MUST NOT EVER AND EVER DIVIDED BY OTHER’S. WE ARE ONE FAMILY…….
PLEASE DONT TRUST ALL THIS MIC AND POLITICAL ORGANISATION…. THEY ONLY ONE OUR VOTE’S SO THEY CAN BE IN MINISTRY AND COLLECT ALL THE FUND THAT SHOULD CAME TO OUR INDIAN’S AND LIVE A LUXURY LIFE.. HOW MANY BANGLO’S FOR THEM.. AND CAR’S FOR THEIR CHILDREN… AND SO MANY BILLION’S IN THEIR BANK ACCOUNT’S………PLEASE WAKE UP DEAR INDIAN’S… ITS ALL OUR FUND….. PLEASE FIGHT FOR OUR INDIAN’S….. PLEASE…..PLEASE……….PLEASE…… LETS MAKE OUR CHILDREN’S FUTURE BETTER………………..
THE GOVERMENT TOLD THE NEWS THAT WE INDIAN’S NEVER RESPECT THEIR RUKUN NEGARA .. THAT SAY’S ” KELUHURAN PERLEMBAGAAN ”
” KEDAULATAN UNADANG-UNDANG ”
THAT WHY THE SEND POLICE FORCE AND ACTED VOILENT ON OUR PEACEFULL ACCEMBLY……..
BUT DO THEY KNOW THAT BEFORE THE 2 RUKUN NEGARA THE IS ALSO THE FIRST RUKUN NAGARA THAT EVERY ONE IN MALAYSIA WILL SAY BEFORE THE 2….
THAT IS……….. ” KEPERCAYAAN KEPADA TUHAN ”
DID THEY FOLLOW……. THEY DISTROYED OUR “TUHAN”…. OUR GOD…
IS THIS WHAT RUKUN NEGARA SAY’S?????????
CAN THEY ANSWER MY QUESTION ??????
Dear UMNO-BN,
Your comments is actual reflection of the current goverment.
We fully support you.
We want to give a press release in your support.Please let us have full details.
Hindu Human Rights federation.
India.
Dear PRO SAMY….U r true,to support our Dato Samyvelu…
i know u cant forgive Dato samyvelu bcoz *EDITED BY MODERATOR*..pity ur mother la PRO SAMY…next after ur marriage i tink samy will die after **** ** ****** teruk teruk la…..i tink *EDITED BY MODERATOR*……pls dont forgot ur beloved pak lah also….pity him bcoz his wife died laaaaaa……*EDITED BY MODERATOR*
I have read the comment by a Mr Singh. The comment he passed does not necessarily represent the entire sikh community. For me I relish whatever peace I enjoy now as against the racial unrest which may come if the current demonstration were to continue. Just look at Zimbabwe’s condition in Africa,Burma, Sri langka. Nobody will win , our lives will not be better if that were to happen. I think the message has got across , and i am sure there will be some change. Let the situation calm down, it is a very tricky chicken and egg situation which cannot change overnight. The notion that at least the world will know is just a dream , no body cares . Look at Iraq, Pakistan etc. There is no justice. The more we are emotional, it will not work our way. We have to improve with whatever we have and make do. Nobody will gain if there is violence and we will loose whatever we have. May peace and calm be upon every body.
When someone in the high post for too long, they only know care about what they have. One nation One party, why Malaysia still need Coalition Political Parties? To bring the benefits to their own races? I don’t think so… what i think is they think about themselves. If you think as a Malaysians you care for everyone, as long as you ONLY care with you own race. There is no point in whats ever to have a coalition party. 50 years of independents and still Malaysia stuck with the RACES issue. COME ON!! We need intelligent people to run the country, not those people like what we have. We want a better place to stay, to live….
I don’t mind it’s a Muslim country, but I do care the way you change to it;
I don’t care if the Minister is work until die, but I do care when they are not intelligent in that field;
I don’t mind if the RMK-9 is helping the Malays, but I do care not everyone is benefited;
I don’t mind if everyone can apply for public servant jobs, but I do care when all the high post is only given to certain races;
I don’t mind who win the Dewan Rakyat, I do care when they are talking nonsense in the Parliament;
I don’t mind if those MP are yellow minded, but I do care when they re talking “bocoh” at the Parliament; (come on! be more educated!)
I don’t mind if our King is building a castle, but I do care when some politicians are over acted;
I don’t mind if the TV are showing any shit, but I do care when all the channel are only side to government. (They hide all news that bring negative image to government);
I don’t mind if you dont’ care what I’m talking about, but I do care because I’m MALAYSIAN!!!
LONG LIFE MALAYSIAN!!
Dear brother,
as a first step, Please for those of you who are qualified to vote (21 years above as of 2007) please go to the nearest post office to register you as a valid VOTER.
We really need your votes if we want to make a differents in coming election.
ALL my brothers out there, we be United for the Better future of our INDIANS… HINDRAF is our community strength..
kepad dr.Murali ppn
awak jangan cari pasal dengan saya. don’t personal with me.
i’m warning you. Saku sumpah kau jadi katak nanti ha ha ha
Change brings progress.
Ability and adopt to change brings innovation.
Every leaders in Europe change more often than in Malaysia.Only in Malaysia, leaders stay until they die??Wonder why??
Having said that, these are the trying times of all Malaysians, Malays, Chinese and Indians. To go through this is to accept the change an allow the change to take place by listening to the voices of the people.
We should start by uniting together against MIC, and make MIC realise that it failed in its strive to live up to it s role of representing the Malaysian Indian Community.
For decades, Samy Vellu has been in power, one wonders why he did not bring the issues that Hindraf bringing up. One thing for sure, Samy Vellu has lost the confidence of more than 100,000 Malaysian Indians and the figure is growing. Samy Vellu, if your are true to your word, then you should face up and join in an open discussion with Hindraf.
Another important way, STOP Purchasing the local newspaper, if your are a MIC member, it is your time to demand within MIC for a change.Be bold and proactive like HINDRAF.
Hindraf is representing the basic human rights of our community and let us all unite and show them our support. It s not about religion only, it about the right to exist!
My fellow creatures,
I , the creator, am not bothered about your race/bangsa thing.But since you are touching on place of worship , let me tell you something , since I dwell in that place.
When a temple gets demolished , did I, your ever powerfull God , prevent the demolishment ?
When a mosque gets demolished during Iraq war, did I, your ever powerfull GOD, prevent the demolishment ?
When a church gets demolished during earthquake, did I, your ever powerfull GOD, prevent the demolishment ?
NO !!!! Why ?
Cause I dwell in your heart , and your heart is my temple,mosque, church, whatever you may call it.
How can you claim to love Me , if you don’t even love my creation (refering to the so called ‘other races’)
I loved Gandhi as much as he loved every soul.
Ahimsa.
Whomever is replacing Samy is going to be well…errr the next Samy. No different. With your kind of political style e.g. baling-baling kerusi, discrimination among castes, there’s no doubt that the next leader will do whatever it takes to cling on to his power & position a.k.a. Samy Vellu style. The problem is not UMNO, Abdullah Badawi, MIC, MCA or what not. Go to the bathroom. Look carefully into the mirror. No, you can’t find the problem there. Now take your clothes off, look again into the mirror. There’s your problem!!! It all lies within yourselves. While other people are busy sending their children to extra tuition classes and going to libraries in droves, you pathetic people chose to create havoc, violence and hatred. Assuming that Queen Elizabeth is at the same level as you street protesters, which is highly unlikely, the first person to benefit out of this compensation is the lawyer, not the estate people. Yesss! A good lawyer is a good liar. Think about it.
The mark of a truly great democracy is how it treats its own minorities and implements its policies equally and fairly, accordingly.
Malaysia was created by the post-war British for ALL residents living in the archipelago prior to 1957. The British, unfortunately, left `loose-ends’ for the minority Chinese and Indians (the latter includes Sri Lankans)- but enshrined within the constitution that minorities under a democratically elected government (`of the people, by the people and for the people’)be treated with respect and deference.
In effect, the British handed to the majority (the Malays) – lock, stock and barrel all that it had created and more – adminstration, education, health and left it `on par’ with semi-developed nation status – on a plate. The Malays, majority of whom neither shed their blood for democracy or worked for it. They were essentially agricultural-based and lived in the kampungs.
Indians under British-rule – lived and fought for the British empire – and gave up to 500,000 lives for the empire – in the 1st and 2nd World Wars. Never mind the 20 million-odd who lost their lives in the `messy’ partition period. It was ill-conceived and ill-thought out, from the very beginning. Britain’s ruling-class and cabinet have to be blamed for this.
It is only right that Britain today acknowledges that fact and remedies the wrongs it made whilst extricating herself to the `west of Suez’ under the SEATO (south-east asian treaty organisation) and later under the auspices of ASEAN – a fairly peaceful withdrawal.
There is also a cultural element in this saga. The Chinese were mainly in industry and business; whilst the mainly South Indians were mainly indentured labourers for the vast rubber estates and road and rail-building projects.
The Chinese just got on with their business (and those who tried on political and idealogical grounds)did not succeed; whilst the labouring-classes were inextricably linked to government-projects.
Post-`Merdeka’ – they have been let down because ALL the government projects (of the Malays, by the Malays and for the Malays) – have been `democratised’(as it were – you guessed it) – for the Malays.
This where we are at this moment – demanding that since Malaysia’s government are not interested in the plight of its minority Indians – the next best thing is to gain world-wide publicity to their plight.
This they brought to the fore with aplomb; and I applaud them!
My next question is: why can’t the Indians (`not the cowboys’ – excuse me for this pun) bypass Samy Velu – and create a new MIC?? Instead of bickering that `he’s good for nothing’ and `lining his …..and his cronies pockets’ – either un-elect him or simply bypass his MIC, I say.
Oi..aku melayu!
kamu kata india mabuk?
bunga seri sudah layu
madu habis kumbang lari
oi mangkuk anak melayu
*EDITED BY MODERATOR*
Kalau nak jawab; jawab persoalan yang ditimbulkan oleh Hindraf secara spesifik.
contoh : Tak ada permit roboh kuil. Tak ada permit kenapa tak roboh istana Dato Zakaria?
I strongly support what DK says. Pls get urself registered as a voter. Bcoz MIC only have their supporters registered.
cheren solan pandian even parameswara, sigappu thole pathu emotional aayi, ella lachiyattiyum poddudu poyidanggeh.
so, pls becareful and set your goal before type something, dont just because of emotional statement we collapse from our goal and journey. just follow instruction or guidelines. unity is our goals..
I like this comment written by ’someone’. it’s beatifully crafted. well done. I paste it for you to ponder and if you’nt like it, Itu lu punya pasal.
wahai indian semua.. apasal nak cari pasal.. perlu di ingat ini bukan tanah air asal kamu . kira beruntung penduduk asal sini bertolak ansur terhadap kamu semua.. jika kamu di negara tidak akan merasa keistimewaan spt disini… mungkin nasib kamu jauh lebih teruk dari disini.. keistimewaan penduduk bumiputera di mana mana tpt pun begini… itu hak yang kamu patut tahu…. tak kira di mana mana di muka bumi yang merdeka.. wpun kami diam tidak bermakna kami takut….kamu lebih bernasib baik dari indian yg merempat di negara sendiri dan sanggup datang ke sini…kamu yang sudah mendapat pelbagai keistimewaan tidak pernah rasa beruntung … jangan buat pasal la… fikirlah baik baik sebelum bertindak ..
i support siva!to all malaysiaan indian,dont waste your time.look chinese community…mostly they dont want 13may tragedy again…they were concentred only their bznes and careers…get lost lim kit siang. look reality.malaysia our beloved country..still peacefully than lndia,Pakistan or more other countries.We must remember SOCIAL CONTRACT before lndependent Day 1957, that time all foreigners got their citizenship.We are very lucky becauze Malays are very tolerantion peoples.So all my indin malaysian friends, if anyone dislike stay in Malaysia,they can change their citizenship and go back to lndia country or any country in AFRICA!!!!!So ,please think be rational and carefully.REMEMBER we are lucky because nowday example IJOK SELANGOR STATE SEAT, all malays (majority voters)were voting lndian Tamil candidate.And we also remember we have not lndian voters majority any states and parliment seats.THINK!!!!! AND lasty, dont following any actions and charectors from Tamil movies..shames! THINK and LOOK reality our beloved Malaysia!!!!!!
Semua murid sila nyanyi bersama-sama lagu NEGARAKU….bagus!
Semua muris sila nyanyi lagu Malaysia Berjaya……baik!
Semua murid sila nyanyi lagu Muhibah……….bagus!
Semua murid lafazkan bersama RUKUN NEGARA…..amat bagus!!!!!
INGAT MURID-MURID
JANGAN IKUT SAMSENG JALANAN ITU. INI BUKAN FILEM TAMIL.
Belajar rajin-rajin.Jikalau gagal, jangan salahkan orang lain.
lngat pesan Cikgu!!! Terima kasih.Selamat Sejahtera murid-murid.
my grandpa n my grandmom from Kalinga,lndia.They came to Fed.of Malaya since 19th century.We are happy as Keling Community from Kalinga state in lndia…and so happy past time good diplomatic relationship..look the historical place e.g Masjid Kapitan Kling at Pulau Pinang and Tanjung Keling at Melaka, so many words that names from Kalinga.Dont hot temperlah!!!!
We all sikhs community still remember Amristrar Temple in lndia tragedy past time ago….why all hindus were attacked them?So..we are malaysin still live peacefully and harmony situation. Go to hell Hindraf! What for…wasting the time.
Long live Karam Singh,
Long live Harjit Singh,
Long live Kavitha Sindhu etc…..YOU ARE GOOD and EXCELLENT SAMPLE AS Malaysian citizen.
Mr Moderator..plz publish..without prejudice!!!!!!!!!
For all dont comment but show on election. NO FOR BN. Prove it dont just say. Dont fight the more u all silent is the better. BE SILENT KILLER. Remember SILENT is the big gun and very danger.
Hello apasal
Do you know why the Indians heve been brought by the British GGovt to Malaysia, Because you guys are not capable to work . Only can talk. We upbring this country before you guys ever did. By the way the word subsidy is created in Malaysia because it is widely use by certain race. Everything subsidy. By house 5%,work qouta university qouta. Be fair lah .
Kepada Enchik Apasal,
Yu punya cerita macham **** ****!!!
Yu asal dari mana!!! jakun ke sakai.
Yu tanya lu punya moyang dari mana asal du
orang!!!
Jahanam Enchik Apasal!!!
Tun VT Sambanthan on 1 Jun 1965 :-
“Now, in 1955 we won the elections with a great majority. Then we obtained freedom in two years time. During this period, we had to discuss citizenship and various other things. Now, what did the Malays do – since we are speaking on racial lines – what did the Malay leadership do?……
They had 88 percent of the electorate still with them. What did they do with citizenship? If we look around in Asia and in East Asia, particularly, you will find that my race the Indian race, is not welcomed in Ceylon, is not welcomed in Burma. Look at my brother Chinese race, it is not welcomed in Thailand, in Vietnam, in Cambodia, in all the other areas. What help do they get for citizenship in all these territories? In Burma, as we know, Indians have been send packing, in Ceylon they refused them citizenship and in Burma it is likewise. I know it, you know it. And yet in Malaya what happened? Here, we found that the Malay leadership said, “We shall take them unto ourselves as brothers, we shall give them full opportunity to live in this country, we shall give them every opportunity to become citizensâ€. And so, in 1957, for the whole year, we waived language qualifications, and tens of thousands of Indians, Chinese, Ceylonese and others became citizens.â€
Apasal ,
Apasal kite boleh cakap nie tanah air kite? Padahal kite pun datang dari
Indonesia jugak.I rase kan if lahir kat msia je sepatutnye boleh jadik bumiputera. Nak suruh die orng balik india mane le patut. Nie kan tempat lahir mereka. Nie tanah air mereke jugak le seperti kite Melayu.
Kalau tak caye sila check balik buku sejarah , dari mane kite nie(melayu) semua dtng. Mane patut Apasal?
Maaf jika mail I buat you tersinggung sbb darah semua warna merah. Kite semua orang planet nie jugak , bukan nye dari Planet Zargus .
Bumi mane dipijak di situ langit di junjung.
Wake up Indian’s.!!!! Now we got some one to fight for our rights & freedom. Let us join together and support them.
Vote for HINDRAF not for Samivellu!!!!! What ever he got now is enough for him and his family.Lets make him to get out from the MIC cabinet.
What he did for us. Everything he did was only for his family.
VOTE FOR HINDRAF!!!!!!!!!!
VOTE FOR UTHAYAKUMAR!!!!! We will Support you!!!
wahai apasal
pergilah baca asal usul orang melayu dan kamu datang dari mana. tak payah nak cakap banyak sebab kami tak ungkitkan dan bangkitkan isu perkauman. jangan pulak kamu terasa.
Vanakam,
Message has been delivered. I think no point discussing this on n on. We shall put it to rest. Not becoz of anything!!
As some of our friend said, i do agree with them. We achieved the purpose. Thats should be enough lah. We wait n see.
We shall stop convincing others and waste time. Get on with our work.
We leave the crafting to the experts.
Lets start by knowing the true history of Malaysia…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_Malaysia
And then maybe we can find a solution to live together in peace!
wahai melayu semua.. apasal nak hak keistimewaan.. perlu di ingat ini bukan tanah air asal kamu ..u orang dari Indonesia. kira beruntung penduduk asal sini(orang asli) bertolak ansur terhadap kamu semua.. jika kamu di negara tidak akan merasa keistimewaan spt disini… gerenti nasib kamu jauh lebih teruk dari disini.. keistimewaan penduduk bumiputera hanya untuk orang yang tidak bermaya , lemah dan bodoh, di mana mana tpt pun begini… itu hak yang kamu patut tahu…. tak kira di mana mana di muka bumi yang merdeka.. wpun kami(Indian) diam tidak bermakna kami takut….kamu lebih bernasib baik dari orang asli yg merempat di negara sendiri dan sanggup tinggal di hutan…kamu yang sudah mendapat pelbagai keistimewaan tidak pernah rasa beruntung … jangan buat pasal la… fikirlah baik baik sebelum bertindak ..
COMPARE THIS WITH THE COMMENT FROM “APASAL”
Many of us Indians have been suffering a long time now, ever since the so called independence which i would rather say racial mutiny by the so called dogmatic bumi’s. Demolishing a temple that is twice as old as this country is downright appalling. This historical monuments shouldn’t be demolished just like that. Mr. Samy Vellu hasn’t done anything better either. He should have known that after 50 years our patients wearing thin. And he couldn’t be bothered by our plight because he just wants to take care of his own skin. We can see through MIC’s and MICA Holding’s lies.
samyvelu go to ****!!!!!
woi APASAL!!dah la nama hang pun apasal,buat apa hang cari pasal? hang ni kurang ajar betul la.belajar tak habis makan **** ****kah?
bangsa melayu yang tak tahu kenal anak dengan isteri.*EDITED BY MODERATOR*?
kalau hang ada depan saya sekarang,dah sepak dah mulut lancang tu.korang ni tak faham bahasa ke bila org kata ni tak ada kaitan dgn agama dan bangsa.awat hang chaukia sangat?belajar kat sekolah mana?belajar tak habis ke?
korang tak pe la.dapat semua tanpa diminta.hampa bodoh pun dapat masuk universiti.korang belajar jadi doktor pun tak geti-geti jugak cakap bahasa inggeris.1st of all do u knw hw 2 speak in english?this forum were in english 4m the begining n y do u leave ur reply in bahasa malaysia?u think ur language is so…. great ah.if u go to any other country n speak ur language they ll definately spit on ur face.hang tau apa maksud “spit”? refer ur dictionary if u got 1.
if the gov were not afraid then y they didnt give us the permit?if u all have nothing to hide then you should give the permit what.the gov said they r ready to face the challenge.SO DO WE!if necessary we ll fight for our rights till our last breath.tak macam korang yang dulu jadi tali barut jepun lepas tu kata bangsa hampa yang beri kemerdekaan untuk malaysia.what an absurb!!piirah!!!!!
v r jz trying 2 protect our rights.y u people still couldn’t understand?dalam kepala korang tu ada otak kah atau tanah liat?korang pi selidik dulu apa tujuan HINDRAF.kalau ada pihak yang berjuang untuk hak korang,itu adil la.kalau kami buat perkara yang sama you all call us as uncivilised.thatz not fair man.y u people wan to make it as a racial issue?
come on la man.we are malaysians k.v jz wan equal rights.if i said something wrong than plz excuse me.
and 1 more thing.i’ve said it b4 in my earlier reply and im goin 2 say it again.DO NOT,I REPEAT DO NOT ASK US 2 GO OUT OF THIS COUNTRY. ANALYS UR BACKGROUND B4 U SAY THOSE WORD 2 ANY OTHER RELIGION.U DIDNT OWN THIS COUNTRY BY URSELF.ONLY THE ‘ORG ASLI’ HAS THAT RIGHTS.STOP ACTING LIKE AN UNCIVILISED BARBARIANS.
Hi all,
be proud of what u ar..
dimana bumi dipijat, di situ langit dijunjung. saya sokong kata2 Helma Noor di atas (read it if u miss it)
u can ask any Malay on the streets, apa keistimewaan kalau berstatuskan “bumiputra”?
sekolah kena bayar jugak, nak masuk uni? kena pinjam PTPTTN also, kerja di gov office? mungkin dapat, kalau ada kenal “org dalam” syarikat swasta? lagi susah.. must have special language( u must know mandrin/kantonis to apply)
Apply tender, mesti UMNO pro atau “frens” inside.
Tikus di seberang nampak, Gajah depan tak nampak.
u indian’s got to see the whole, not the small.
All races in malaysia is not satisfied with present gov. Why there are PAS, Keadilan, Dap so on.. u vote laa..
Religion is also same, muslim also have their problems.
You guy’s got indian SR(T)school, chinese with SR(C), Muslim?
any SR(M)or SR Islam? We have to send our child to private muslim classes. Some even send to SAR (Sekolah Agama Rakyat) which is a private schools. Which means a monthly fees from parents personal pockets.No free books. Only at higher levels the gov. support these schools, only a few build in this country (if one’s qualified with arab language)
PPL,
Remember insiden di Baling, they shoot kampung people for what they stand for.They are just religious rakyat wants a better gov to do better for Muslim. They are not even demostrators. Hindraf leaders will be ISA’s if Mahathir’s around. But who’s in ISA’s now? Mostly malays..
So dont blame it to the malays, u wont want to know what they capable of..
Be more sensitive when dealt with these issues. Open up your minds, your eyes, see around you.. whose the faults.
IT’s YOU…. You vote, you know. The majority rules.
wahai kaum2 india yg beragama hindu….
kalau kamu semua di diskriminasi,takde la terpacaknya patung hindu emas besar kat batu caves tu…hindu kat India pun takde patung besar macam tu tau!!!!
…kalau kamu semua di diskriminasi, takde la lahirnya tokoh2 india kat Malaysia ni…sammy Vellu, Ananda Krishnan takkan ada la woii!!!!
….korang majukan la bangsa sendiri…jangan asyik nak jadi samseng, main parang, rompak…..
…korang bukan penduduk asal malaysia, so faham-faham la sendiri..kira beruntung korang dapat tinggal kat malaysia ni…
….so.kalau tak puas hati jugak apa kata semua yg tak puas hati tu balik INDIA!!!!!!!
…..Diam Melayu bukan sebab takut….kitaorang tunggu masa je…
…ingat!!!orang Hindu hanya mewakili 6.3 peratus penduduk Malaysia…sikit tu oiiii..jadi,ingat-ingat la….
….sepatutnya,kita boleh hidup aman dan damai…tapi…..
Dear brothers and sisters,
Nampaknya sesetengah orang masih tak dapat control mulut mereka!
Kita kat sini nak cari jalan penyelesaian, bukannya nak bergaduh sesama kita! Species-species dalam BN semuanya happy, kita pulak tengah nak bergaduh.
Ini bukannya masa untuk bermusuhan, tapi masa untuk bersatu untuk menentang musuh yang tak kelihatan ( diskriminasi )!. Sesiapa saja yang diluar tu, tak kisah bangsa dan agama, tolonglah jaga bahasa korang bila bercakap mengenai isu sensitif. Masing-masing asyik nak betulkan orang lain tapi cara sendiri tak betul. Inikah cara kita orang Malaysia! Biarlah kita berjuang untuk keadilan tanpa kehadiran “EGO”. Biarlah kita bertamadun( civilsed ) sikit?. Bagi sesiapa yg yang tersinggung saya mohon maaf! and lets put and end to these careless and hurting comments posted on the blog. Lets be rational from now on!. Come on brothers and sisters ( all races ) lets make this a better world for our future generation!
Thank you!
JAI HIND!
Wahai Hang Jebat,
Tahukah kamu bahawa Hang Jee Bah atau Hang Jebat adalah pahlawan keturunan Cina dan kenapa kamu menggunakan namanya???
Patung yang kami dirikan itu adalah di perkarangan Batu Caves atas titik peluh kami sendiri dan bukan di tanah rizab melayu!!! Kami tidak pernah robohkan mana- mana masjid untuk bina kuil kami! Lupakah kamu akan kata- kata Nabi Muhammad S.A.W ” Hormatilah agama orang lain seperti kamu menghormati agama kamu”.
Kami tidak pernah mencabar sesiapa di negara dan kami tidak akan berdiam diri jika dianiaya!!!
Tinggalkan malaysia???….biar orang India balik India, Cina balik China dan Melayu balik Indonesia dan serahkan bumi tercinta ini kepada kaum peribumi kerana mereka adalah bumiputera yang sebenarnya!!! Bumiputera ini adalah istillah Sanskrit dan mengapa kamu masih menggunakanny???
To all bloggers who support the UMNO cronies, please be reminded that when UMNO wins the next election here’s what they will do :-
1. Toll increase from RM1.60 to 2.90
2. Petrol subsidy taken away, now is RM1.92 per liter and when no subsidy is RM4.50 per liter
3. All prices of drinks will increase, actually it is increasing already – 1 can of 100 plus is now RM2.10(today) only Oct 15 the same 100 plus is only RM1.60, when I ask why increase, the shop operator says petrol sudah naik, jadi bila order dari supplier, supplier kata mesti charge lebih untuk deliver 100 plus kepada kedai kita.
4. Tax will go up soon, govt is paying up to RM1 billion per month on govt expenditure base on utilities, equipment and also the recently govt servants income increase by 30% to 50% My malay fren whom is working for govt, last year salary is RM2K but now her salary increase by RM2.8K so must tax the ordinary rakyat more to pay for the salary increase of our govt servants
5. KLSE share prices will go down by 40% soon after election because our govt is using taxpayers money to push up the KLSE shares artificially just to let the rakyat know the our share prices is still very healthy but it is actually not.
So, rakyat especially the poor people including hardcore poor melayu, do you still want to vote the the corrupted govt??? I guess not, anyway we got so many corrupted govt servants in our country e.g. Samy Vellu and our Klang Assemblymen who build tons of bangalows on illegal land(you know who lar, our good friend Zakaria), why don’t the govt just bulldoze his bangalows just like our govt bulldoze the temples??? So wake up bumiputra, throw away your UMNO putra false status because the real con artist originates from UMNO cronies. One question, is Zakaria an UMNO member?? definately……
i am so impressed to see the positive support to Hindraf here. It’s time for all of us to speak up.Enough of waiting for someone else to helP us……now we have to help ourselves. I just hope that this will not just stop with the rally…..but continue until we acheive the equal rights from the goverment. We are also BUMIPUTRAS. Vote for the right people who can lead us. It enuogh to hear the INDIAN CRAB story around.Let us all help one another to show to the others that ,we Indian are born to be learders. We are one of the oldest civilized people in the world. Don’t let our next generation to suffer too. My support will b always to Hindraf!!
Hai, Hang Jebat aku rasa engkau memang tak faham bahasa Inggeris yealah nama engkau pun hang jebat masih dalam abad mana ha. Jgn sesekali awak berani ckp pasal kepercayaan kaum di Bt caves. cuba awak kira berapa banyak masjid yang bangsa awak ada di KL ni. Orang India tak apa berani gaduh dgn parang tapi bangsa awak asyik *EDITED BY MODERATOR* Aku rasa engkau memang tak pergi sekolah lah, mungkin sekolah atap aje kot sebab tu la bangang sangat. cuba engkau kira tokoh india dua aje dibandingkan dgn tokoh2 melayu.Siapa lagi banyak ha… i hope u tahu mengira ok. dah tu dah dapat jadi tokoh bangsa u jugak yang main rasuah. Tak tgk berita TV3 ke??hang jebat ada tv dekat rumah ke atau pun u tinggal dalam hutan kawan dengan beruk2 dalam hutan sebab tu la engkau tak faham cerita kot baru aku faham….apakata engkau bawak bangsa engkau masuk hutan semua sekali makan ubi kayu dgn belacan.apamacam idea aku bagus tak. Aku rasa engkau tak puas hati la baik engkau masuk hutan balik….Jadi Mat Tarzan……Lainkali kalau nak ckp tu jangan la nak sedap mulut tu dan kalau tak tahu cerita hujungpangkalnya jangan nak tunjuk pandai. tutup mulut diam aje nanti sia-sia aje kena dgn aku…Aku rasa engkau boleh balik hutan dgn beruk2 engkau tido aje lagi bagus….atau pun pun engkau pergi merempit dalam hutan dgn beruk2…bangsa engkau kan suka merempit macam ***** dkt jalanraya….wassalam
Ingat…membina adalah lebih sukar dari meruntuhkan..jangan lupa orang melayu mempunyai sejarah ikatan dan persahabatan yang baik dengan masyarakat India…masyarakat India pun begitu….Cuba tanya diri kita siapa itu disebalik Hindraf…adakah mereka2 ini adalah beragama Hindu sejati…setahu saya orang yang beragama Hindu adalah orang yang paling tertib dalam pergaulan dan sentiasa bertolak ansur…kenapa tidak menyuarakan perkara tersebut dalam suasana yang hamoni…jangan lukakan hati orang lain yang baik dengan kita.. Sekiranya terluka., walaupun sembuh tapi parut tetap ada…kalau baik semula pun tidak akan sama dengan yang mula. Pada mereka mereka segelintir masyarakat India berfikir lah…jangan lah bermain dengan api dan jangan sampai nasi menjadi bubur. Ingat… Semua bangsa ada senang dan ada yang susah….Tak kira bangsa apa sekali pun…Melayu, Cina, Bengali ke..India ke…dan lain2…kalau rasa tak sesuai tinggal di Malaysia…Sila lah keluar dari Negara yang aman damai ini…lucut lah hak kerakyatan Malaysia dan berhijrah lah…Malaysia ni memerlukan orang yang baik2 dan saling hormat menghormati…
Eh hang Jebat…Hang tutup la mulut busuk hang kejap…Hang memang bodoh..hang tak tau ke…mak bapak hang semua dari Indon..semua perkataan melayu hang main pinjam aje….Hang Mat Indon yang busuk yang berkeliaran merata tempat ….
Hang ingat hang sembhyang lima kali tu hang ada pahala ke zaman akhirat/?pirahhhhhhhhhhh……Hang akan dapat nahas sebang hang semua treat all indians like dogs….Hang takka n dapat pahala..hang boleh mampus ke Indon busuk hang….At least we knwo our heritage…hang tau ke mak datuk hang heritage aper…ZERO!
Pi pi balik buka buku sejarah British…jangan buka malaysia punya..semua bohong dalam…hang pergi ke England..ask them wat they think Malay is..they will say They are ****** piece of ****.
…AT least we have proven…all indians..get together..can shake…up our government….They should realy..look into…our comunity now…Uncle Sam is jus making…money….but we are still getting no justice what kind of leader is this man….NO SUPPORT AT all…think for himself….i am all the way for HINDRAF…..we..will fight till we get justice…Now…they will think more than once to touch a temple…..cuz they will know the…answer….from all indians back…
wahai bodoh hang jebat,
walaupun peratus kaum india 6.3 peratus atau kurang dari itu kami tak kisah, kami nak hak kami bodoh.
yeah..one more thing
1-YES – all indian dont vote for mic this election
2-YES – we support all malaysian indian
3-YES – ALL Indian are wellcome 2 express urself in this democratic-tic tic nation
4-NO – don’t ever try 2 change 4 what u cant change
5-NO- NO recommendation 4 bumiputra speaciality
6-Dont-Dont try to make a little smookie on the bush
7-dont – Yeah u all indian can have what u want but u cant have it at all!
wahai Hang jebat,
Kalau kite kire balik, kite pun tinggal jugak kat msia.
Kan kite semua dari Indonesia utara? Hanye awal sikit je datang ke Malaya.
Tak boleh le kite cakap yg masyarakat india balik india.
Sbb mereka juga lahir kat sini so ini tanah air mereka jugak. Apa rasa kita kalau di halau balik ke indon? Bila dengar aje pasti susah hati kan?
Siapa yg lahir kat Malaysia die kire bumiputra lah. Kite nak hak istimewa buat ape? Kite pun boleh usaha sendiri lah nak hidup maju. Semua orng Msia nie istimewah lah Hang Jebat.
Cap ayam betul………..
Hoi Hang Jebat…Lui sudah mampui lama ..macam mana pula muncul tiba-tiba..kan dah jadi sejarah.duduklah diam-diam.aku ingat Jebat itu Cina bukan melayu.betul ke?Kalau nak guna nama samaran itu biarlah berbaloi.kau sendiri menderhaka pada sultan melaka, maka kau tak layak nak komen pasal orang lain.Bangsa india jadi samseng itupun boleh dimaafi tapi “Harapkan pagar , Pagar makan padi” hanyalah terjadi di kalangan bangsa kamu.paham-paham jelah.Bolehhhh be….lahhh.
Hindraf members,
The Sikhs wont support you… And dont forget although the sikhs are mearly around 80.000 but nearly all of them are very professional in every field….
If we can work on our own feet for our status why cant you’ll too do the same…
Its simply because u’ll dont choose to follow the right part in life..
Until today and in the future.. You have never seen any SIKH begger on the streets and never will see… We have got so much of self respect for ourself..
Why cant the Indians too be like us… And then u see how the government will respect you too..
Think about it…
Hoi…. Hang Jebat, ingatkan lui sudah lama mampui…macam mana pulak tiba-tiba muncul.kan kau sudah jadi sejarah …duduklah diam diam.Aku dengar Jebat itu cina bukan melayu betul ke? Kau sendiri tak setia pada bangsa kau… derhaka pada sultan melaka…. jadi kau tak layak nak komen pasal orang lain.Memang orang india samseng tapi itupun boleh dimaafi tapi “Harapkan pagar Pagar makan padi” itulah bangsa kamu…paham-paham je..lah.”Gajah memang besar tapi ia takut pada semut walaupun kecil. itulah realiti.Bolehhhh be…lahhhh.
Hi…
I am supporting HINDRAF 101%..
Just wondering …it should be for all indians and not hindus……
The chineese and others should join too.. and support this fight for our future generation to stabd equal qith others
UBI
Hang Jebat contoh Melayu Neo-Konservatif, Neo-Fascist, Neo-Nationalist
Sudah tiba masanya hak keistimewaan di “tiadakan”…
kepada semua orang india yang pegang IC malaysia:
orang melayu sudah tinggal di semenanjung sekurang-kurangnya 200 tahun sebelum Masihi.
Dari Utara segenting kra (sekarang Nakhon Sri Thammarat di Thailand) hingga ke Temasik (sekarang singapura) ke Champa (Tengah dan Selatan Vietnam) ke Sumatra ke Borneo Utara dan Selatan dan Filipina malahan Taiwan sekalipun adalah wilayah yang dipanggil Dunia Melayu.
Orang Melayu bertransmigrasi diantara wilayah-wilayah ini seperti layaknya transmigrasi orang-orang di malaysia hari ini dari satu negeri ke satu negeri.
Orang Melayu sudah tinggal di Kedah, Kelantan, Terengganu, Pahang, Johor sekurang-kurangnya 1500 tahun.
Tidak timbul isu orang Melayu datang dari Indonesia. Thailand, Malaysia, Singapura, Brunei, Filipina, Indonesia, Kemboja, Vietnam itu semua negara-negara Tanah Air orang Melayu.
Jika anda masih berkeras mengatakan orang melayu adalah pendatang dari Sumatera, anda sama bodohnya dengan orang yang berkata Orang Sweeden berasal dari Norway (kerana kedua-duanya dari keturunan yang sama).
logikkah mengatakan orang pakistan asal dari india? sedangkan india itu sendiri entiti ciptaan british? dan pakistan itu sendiri lahir pada saat kelahiran india.
begitu juga entiti malaysia dan indonesia. jika tidak kerana perjanjian inggeris-belanda 1827 tidak timbul soal malaysia-indonesia. yang ada hanyalah NUSANTARA, dunia melayu.
bodoh!
Di jepun sekalipun ada golongan orang Asli, berani kata orang Jepun adalah pendatang di Negara Jepun? pegilah berhijrah ke sana dan minta kewarganegaraan Jepun atas hujah orang jepun sendiri adalah pendatang. Berani?
Bodoh lain kali bertempat.
Kami orang melayu. Warisan kami warisan melayu. Di sini tanah berpijak adalah tanah warisan kami.
Kamu bilang sekurang-kurangnya kamu mempunyai warisan… warisan kamu warisan tamil yang pastinya bukan berasal dari sini.
Bina kuil lain kali jangan asal pacak. Masjid pun banyak yang kena roboh juga…
You asked for Tamil curiculum schools, we gave you that. Now when your system failed, you shift the blame on the Malays? Losers…
Orang Tamil rela kalau kereta rabak berkarat macam nak roboh, tapi Arak sampai 2-3 botol besar.
Orang Melayu Malaya sanggup kongsi kewarganegaraan dengan kamu, sepatutnya kamu bersyukur.
Orang cina dan india di Brunei hanya dapat status Penduduk Tetap tanpa kewarganegaraan.
Orang Islam di India disembelih, dirogol dan dibakar hidup-hidup.
Orang CINA muslim di CHINA tidak dianggap sebagai orang Cina oleh orang Cina sendiri.
semua cina dan india yang tak tau jaga mulut, otaknya letak di tumit.
di mana bumi dipijak disitu langit dijunjung.
masuk kandang kambing mengembek, masuk kandang harimau mengaum.
Dear Samyvellu;
Y u behave like tiz…all d way malays support us but u still sodomise us..enuff la ur usd 600million counted properties….dont still **** indians la beb…still want money means *EDITED BY MODERATOR*
Kepada semua yang anti Hindraf dan bangsa india,
Kenapakah anda semua sensitif sangat pasal Hindraf dan perhimpunan ini?Kerajaan dan semua media di malaysia ini mengatakan bahawa perhimpunan ini haram.Ertikata “Haram” sebenarannya wujud sekiranya perhimpunan ini dibuat secara tersembunyi.Hindraf telahpun membuat rayuan beberapa kali untuk mendapatkan permit untuk mengadakan perhimpunan secara aman untuk menyampaikan memorandum tersebut.Maka perhimpunan ini bukanlah haram dalam ertikata sebenar.Kenapakah kerajaan kita “takut sampai mati” dan mengempar-gempurkan hal ini? Lagipun bukan mereka nak saman kerajaan kita.Reaksi ini menunjukkan “Siapa makan cili dialah rasa pedas” begitulah jadinya.Kalaulah apa yang tertera dalam memorandum ini bukan benar tidak perlulah perhimpunan ini diharamkan.Sampai nak gunakan ISA.
KEPADA SEMUA WARGA INDIA.JANGANLAH ANDA TERIKUT IKUT DENGAN HINDRAF DAN PARTI PEMBANGKANG!SAYA DENGAN USAHA GIGIH BESAMA ANAK SAY VELPARI TELAH MENCADANGKAN BEBERAPA IDEA YANG BERNAS UNTUK KAMU SEMUA..SAYA AKAN LETAK JAWATAN SAYA JIKA ANDA SEMUA TOLONG SAYA..SAYA KEKURANGAN RM50 MILLION SEBAB BATU CAVES PUNYA DUIT TAHUN DEPAN PASTI SAYA TAK BOLEH KOREK….*edited by moderator*
Terima kasih “Melayu” kerana mengajar kami sejarah Melayu.Betul ke …sejarah kamu tu… nama Parameswara pun dah hilang daripada buku sejarah.Maafkanlah saya …Saya tak rela nak dengar sejarah lapok kamu itu.Bangsa Melayu kan suka mengambil hak kepunyaan orang lain.Kalaulah betul warisan melayu kamu itu bagi baliklah semua adat tradisi yang kamu ciplak daripada kaum lain. Bahasa Melayu yang kamu bangga-banggakan pun bukan kamu punya tau tak!Yang benar tetap benar.Otak India & Cina letak di tumit tapi kenyataanya orang melayu langsung tak ada otak.
04,08,16,18,21,24,36,303!!!!ALL JALAN KAIGEH NOW CALLED AS HINDRAF!!!!!ALL D GUYS MAINLY UMNO-BN PUNDAMAVAN AND ALL WHO AGAINST US..THE ABOVE STATED NUMBERS ARE MAIN GANGSTERS AND NOW WE JOIN TO AGAINST U ****** PPL!!!JUST NOW ONE GUY TELL “ALL MALAY AND CHINESE WILL GO AND U INDIAN STAY IN MALAYSIA ALONE======PLS STATE IN UR MIND TAT WE WONT DO ANYTHING TO U….U ALL PITY LA…RUN TO INDONESIA LA ****** *****JADI!
dear frens ,
stop fighting ! The current issues is not between races . It’s between bureaucrats and democrats . If we were to find fault it will be endless . There’s no ‘perfect’ species in the world . The current outburst is to vision how the administration could be beneficial for all without skew .
Justice has no race/religious trademark on it. Opportunity shd be open based on talent and intellectual . Tht’s why a muslim genius(abdul kalam) could be president for billions of hindus . But here a MP being asked to resign from party for just saying a sentence of grieving indian community in Dewan . Crap !
STAND FOR JUSTICE NOW N FOREVER!!!
It’s a nonsense authority talking about ‘proper channel’ . Looking at ‘disabled press freedom’ , ISA , court order …..etc . Law became remote control of politics . It shd be the other way round. Sometimes it needs a ‘big bang’ as a wake up call for justice ! The marching/rally of Bar council/Bersih/Hindraf are good example of this . These could have been unnecessary if the ‘channels’ were active . It’s simply a backfire for ruling party . We need an intellectual/integral/immaculate leader to drive the fair system .
Hoi Melayu
Jaga Mulut Kamu……Melayu nama pun layu. faham ke ????
Kamu cakap kami minta curiculum Tamil kamu bagi tapi system fail dan menyalahkan kamu , mestilah fail kerana kami india dan Cina dapat 9A tak dapat masuk Matrikulasi, Kamu melayu dapat 5E pun boleh masuk matrikulasi ini menunjukkan system dalam komputer kamu fail kerana tak dapat bezakan A dan E tapi system boleh bezakan kaum.
Dear Peaceful Singh
Masuk bakul angkat sendirikah??? Jangan kasi malu sama punjabi… PUNJAB masih dalam negara India.
We should not separate ourselves from Indian in Malaysia.Have u been to tanjung tualang? The cow herds belongs to which professional group? If we call ourselves as sikh and not as Indian then we sikhs come from which planet??? Here they r fighting for indians’ rights including us.
Hoi Singh, Jangan biSINGH, nanti awak kena puSINGH, kita kasi aSINGH.
Inqulab Zindabarth
tak tau la….celaru….
hi semua
ini tak masuk akal
kerja bodoh, tak pandai berbudi
ia berbau politik. ssbit orang melayu pula
kami tak support kamu lah
kerja bodoh
pergi mampus lah hindaf. tau mampus tak?
Wahai Hang Jebat,
Kan Hang Jebat & Rakan2 tu hanya katun punya cerita!!!
Lu ingat Melayu tu besar ka!. Lu orang cakap besar -
memang handal macam Bruce Lee.
Tapi lu orang sekarang sudah lupakan zaman sebab you
orang punya ketua memang orang ******!!!
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Tolong ingat Tok Jebat! You tau ke berapa %%
Indian population kat India tu.
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hahaha…live long PUNJAB COUNTRY…go to Merdeka from lndia…Go to **** indian…punjab and punjabi so beatifull…we support DEEPAK SINGH, we support MR.SUBRAMANIAM..use your brain all malaysian estate peoples…dont like jungle people! HINDRAFS are play drama like Tamil movie..ayooo ammaaah….
Sebagai guru, tanggungjawab saya mendidik dan menyatakan kebenaran dan fakta yang betul.Janganlah kita terpedaya dan tertipu dengan kenyataan-kenyataan yang silap.Anda semua pernah bersekolah, paling kurangpun di peringkat PMR.
Malaysia sebelum merdeka 1957 dikenali dengan Tanah Melayu atau Malaya.Selepas merdeka Persekutuan Tanah Melayu atau Federation of Malaya sehingga Malaysia ditubuhkan 16 September 1963. lndonesia mempunyai rentetan sejarahnya juga bermula 1920a-an sehingga merdeka 1947 (kalau tidak silap saya).Sebelum itu tidak wujud lndonesia.lndonesia sebelum merdeka dikenali dengan nama-nama pulau-pulau dan daerah yang bertaburan mengikut ketua masing-masing; seperti Jawa,Sulawesi,Sunda,Sumatera dan banyak lagi.Sebelum merdeka kawasan ini dikenali NUSANTARA iaitu daerah pulau-pulau atau rumpun.Sebab itu mereka dikenali RUMPUN MELAYU. Seperti juga negara China yang berpecah-pecah di utara,selatan,timur.Tetapi pemerintah zaman dinasti Chin telah berjaya menjadikan China hari ini satu bangsa dan satu bahasa.ltupun memakan masa beratusan tahun lamanya. lnikan Malaysia yang baru 50 tahun merdeka.Begitu juga negara lndia yang dahulu bukan seperti sekarang. Beratus-ratus tahun dahulu di selatan lndia ada kerajaan Asoka.Di utara lndia ada kerajaan Moghul…tetapi akibat tamak,berpuak-puak,perkauman,sentimen agama maka berlaku perperangan demi perperangan lalu dapat dijajah oleh British.Keterangan saya hanya ringkasan sahaja. Sebab itu jikalau dikatakan Melayu dari lndonesia salahlah. Seperti kita mengatakan orang lndia dari KERALA yang berhijrah ke HYDERABAD bukan orang lndia.Malaysia,lndonesia,Singapura adalah satu RUMPUN,,,bahkan dahulu rumpun Melayu termasuk Filipina dan Selatan Thailand.Tetapi semua berpecah kerana dijajah kuasa asing akibat pergaduhan. ADAKAH KITA MAHU ALI, AH CHONG DAN MUTHU YANG MENGAKU WARGANEGARA MALAYSIA SEKARANG BERGADUH DAN BERPECAH SEPERTI SEJARAH ZAMAN LAMPAU?????apakah kita boleh mengatakan orang Cina Taiwan bukan orang Cina kerana Taiwan bukan berada dalam negara China???Cuba fikirkan. Burma dahulu huru-hara pada abad ke-19 hingga sekarang kerana ada musuh dalam selimut dan ada puak yang suka perpecahan berlaku untuk kepentingan diri mereka. Apakah HINDRAF tidak belajar daripada sejarah lampau??????Gunakan akal(mind) bukan gunakan otak sahaja. Binatang pun ada otak.Hanya manusia yang berilmu ada akal. Cuba anda semua fikirkan!!!!!!
Heiidehhh tamby….i was support the good ideas from Mr Deepak Singh. All of this factors…our faults. Why we intrdce ourslve lNDIAN? lndian are meaning people from lndia.We are chauvinist!!!!!Chinese are meaning people from China…look INDIA and CHINA. They are indian national and chinese national. Whye we are so stupid…better promote ourslve are MALAYSIAN only….get lost indian..get lost chinese…put into IC only Malaysian.So we are truely know our ‘hak’. Pooooooorrrrrraaahhh HINDRAF!!! Are your registrd organ’tion????? Your Reg.No. plz??????
Dear All,
I have been reading through all the comments here. Allow me to reply generally to everyone. When someone says Samy is stupid, not capable to be leader, useless and so on, everyone says the same thing. And when someone voice out saying that he has done so much for the Indian community you just deny it. Then how come there are so many scrap metal indian millionaires, AK in fact, business man and top positions in Govt dept came up? Im not saying that all this is because Samy helpded BUT in this country you are free to do anything. Questioning why the temple was broke or why there is 70% indians are still poor. Well these Indians refuse to come out to the limelight.
When the girl is 20, the get her married and work in estate. I stil have friends parents who think KL guys/girls are useless. Make the children go to school, if no money approach any NGO’s if you think that MIC is not helping. NO matter how much you debate about, they can still provide you with the statistics. Study hard! Do Business! Dont say I got no money and so on. Its there, grab it. This is the only way Indians in Malaysia can survive. Education, learn a foreign language, mark my words you can survive anywhere in this world.
Take critism open heartedly, dont let your emotions overcome your mind. Some even said that, P.Uthayakumar should join MIC and become the leadeer. I disagree totally. KNow why? Because MIC is component party of BN which is a ruling party. Its like you are working in a company and you calling your boss fu**er. Can you do that? I would suggest Uthaya should join the oppositions. Thats the right move, when there is strong oppositions, by default for competing each other both parties will provide better service for the rakyat. Agree?
I am always open for feedbacks and critism. Im proud to be Indian and Malaysian. And I thank HINDRAF for voicing out the issues which caught the global attention. But please do it accordingly.
Thank you.
Come to think of it, it sounds weird that a memorandum is to be delivered on a SUNDAY – a non working day.
Can’t a memorandum be delivered by only a person or perhaps several instead of several thousand which in turns not only clogs the roads but instill fears onto business owners and also particularly consumers whose only wish is to spend a beautiful Sunday walking on the less congested streets and yet are intimidated by thousands on protestors bent on venting their anger, inciting racist remarks as well as the sight of police everywhere.
Are we slowly becoming a little Pakistan or a little India where people simply take to the streets to vent their anger on anything?
I am pretty sure that whoever is inciting or leading the protest will benefit from this as his/her legal business have now become famous.
I cannot imagine Kuala Lumpur being host to a protest every 10 days and what would become of all the businesses in Chinatown, Little India and Malay controlled areas? Owners will pack up and move away…
Visit Malaysia year will become Stay Away Malaysia year..
I think that is what the hidden hands behind this protests want to do….and perhaps it is the sheer frustration of not being able to become the PM is what drives these people to support the protests.
I am all for a peaceful Malaysia….where malays, indians, chineses, sikhs and all races can freely walk in anyone’s area…share an English Premier League while having teh tarek, look for pirated DVDs sold by Ah Bengs or shop in Carrefour etc etc!
I am all for sheer hard and honest work where if you work hard and are honest, you will surely get there but don’t busuk hati when you see someone is driving a flashy car or staying in a nice house and say…. it must be political connections – THERE ARE STILL A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE WHO SLOG OR WORK HARD, SMART AND HONEST TO GET THERE!!!
Go to the 4D ekor if you want to have a comfortable life without having to work hard, smart and honest or spend an hour with Guinness Stout or Toddy to drown your own self made frustrations instead of blaming on others all the time!
For those ultra malays, indians, chinese, sikhs…. I suggest that you pack up and share your tribal mentality with some of the power hungry Africans in the dark continent!
Our forefathers who together built this country must be restless in their graves!!!
Dear all learned HINDRAF supporters,
are you fighting for your rights or you’re fighting against malays and islam? most of your words here indicates that you’re fighting against malays and islam…sympathize at first, but now i’m feel humiliated…maybe HINDRAF don’t need malays support, votes etc…feeling humiliated i don’t think i’m brave enough to go to my regular indian sundry shop, barber shop and car wash……….
malaysian(chinese malay indian others)= peaceful country.No War, Malaysian Boleh3!!!
dear frenz, to make changes in our indian community we seriouly need to choose the rite leader in the future.So vote the person that you tink can change your fate in this country. HINDRAF concern towards our indian community is a great support 4 al of us to fite 4 our rites. Choose a great leader and fite 4 our rites!!!
HEY U GUYS!
THIS IS NOT ABOUT RACIAL ISSUE, WHICH RACE IS BETTER, WHICH RACE HAS MORE POWER AND WHICH RACE SHOULD LEAVE THS COUNTRY!
THIS IS BOUT INDIANS BEING MARGINALIZED IN OWN COUNTRY! SO, PLEASE DON’T CONFUSE YOURSELF AND ADD RACIAL ISSUE INTO THIS AND WE ARE NOT FIGHTING AGAINST EACH OTHER. WE ARE VOICING OUT AGAINST THE UMNO RULED GOVERNMENT!
NO RACIAL STATEMENTS PLEASE.
Vanakam
I’ve been following this forum since beginning. I believe most of the outrageous comments came from the young aged group, who obviously has long way to go in term on living life experiences. As I was in that age zone too in the past, I understand the young blood’s urge at time like this. Keep ur cool guyzz, silence can say thousand words. WE can’t blame others and hurt their feelings. Everyone has many kinds of problem that we wouldn’t know. Let other leave their life peacefully. There are ways to improve and to be success which is not appropriate to be published to the whole world to know. I’m sure works have begun. WE must know our duty now, just be patient and wait. There is no need to talk, comment or etc, which doesn’t serve any purpose.
But I fully acknowledge the intention of HINDRAF, which describes the out cry of the oppressed Malaysian, which is true. I was hoping our honorable PM would ask our MIC chief to step down, but didn’t happen. MIC NEEDS A MAJOR RESTRUCTURING TOP TO GRASS ROOT. More transparent, More dynamic, more integrity, genuine leader, action plans, show the results, listen to the intellectuals & grass roots and etc….I’m sure Government has given something through MIC to the community. How they spend?? Give details, failure or success show it all, each and every single thing done by MIC!!! Give report to the community.
Leaders must accept changes for betterment of society. Leaders who can’t show positive result must step down. Sincerely, after looking at the turnout on Sunday rally, suppose voluntarily our Mr. GoD should have step down. Last Sunday was the result of the examination that he has sat for 29 years. He can’t sit for the exam till he dies, he must know lorr. Sendiri mahu tahu lah.. takra malu kah!! Tolong lah!! PaK LAh suruh kawan kita rihat dan meluang masa ngan cucu-cicitnya.
With a good leader, we can unite, prosper and live independently in future. FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR FUTURE GENERATION.
Vanakam n Salam Sejahtera.
we will support u sir.HINDRAF concern towards our indian community is a great support 4 al of us to fite 4 our rites. Choose a great leader and fite 4 our rites!!!
To Hindraf member
Since our Datok Samy vello request us to do in a proper way, why not we gather our 200000 at samy vello home to hand over a copy(cc) to samy vello before we see the Queen
In malaysia we have 4 political party(indian). why not make it 1
Hi there,
mmmm… I like your reply melayu. very direct and full of fact. I am a mix of pashtun and malay. I still have a lots of close relative at India. (Mostly at Hyderabad & Gujerat).
Hahahahaha… Racial. Racist. All country in this world have this problem. Including America (to african American), China and Japan. How about India??? Well for your info, at India, the TAMIL were discriminate by the Urdu. Even Sikh were economically better than Tamil. Apart from some tamil superstar, other tamil population at India are very poor.
Have any of you here go to india??? why the british bring the tamil races here??? why?? why?? Simple… majority of the tamil in malaysia coming from lower caste, which suddenly when they arrive in Malaysia and have a good life, they change their caste (Which is illegal in Hindu. If a a ksatriya, forever u are ksatriya. If you are untouchable, forever u are untouchable.)
All this lower caste were send by the higher caste of new government after chola dynasty that lose war with british and Moghul empire. They sold their lower caste people to British to wage the war with Moghul and other prince.. hehehehe.. thats why the majority of Tamil Malaysia dont want to go back to India. Can u imagine the tamil malaysia go back to India?? work all day, female raped by higher caste (which is also illigal in Hiduism), and they cannot go up of their caste like in Tamil Movie.. all that just a fantasy, which made rajnikant a tamil hero and also very rich.
Thats about racist… how about religion???? In india, all the world know what they did to muslim, christian, sikh and also hindu(lower caste). No need to elaborate. What the situation in Malaysia??? simple.. The hindu practitioner not a majority. just around 2 million only. BUT… they have an habit to build so many temple to different type of god. Is it logic to build a temple in a majority Malay population??? Is it logic to build a temple at Chinese population??? When I small kid at Ipoh there are small hindu temple below a palm oil tree. In a majority chinese neighbourhood. every week they put food, and many things that generate a not good smell.. I remember many my chinese friend go there to steal milk, eggs and fruit. and put it to their grandparent tomb..
As a summary, Government also demolish mosque in Malaysia. If it is necessary. Why there are no complaint about buddist temple being destroyed??? because they build the temple in a right place. think and then reply my email.. Give me fact ok.. fact…
You want to demolish the bumiputra status.. Never go that boundaries. this is a warning. dont go that boundaries my friend. think before you act. If you dont about your self, then care about your family and your next generation when you are unable to even pick the “madhu” bottle.
If you choose to elect dap, the, sammy vellu no longer have power in BN. Which after this, MIC unable to make demand to BN. hehehehe. Thats good actually.. You dont forget that BN will never lose if there are no Indian supporter. Be careful. dont be trapped by the leader that want to have power. Religion have been used by Atal Behari Vajpayee to raise into power. He used it very well. He also triggered the Hindu-Muslim clash that killed 10,000 muslim (mostly female and children). What a fact huh…
I like fact and statistic. Give me more. We can carry on debating. Want to play?? Cmon….
People,
We have been fighting and asking the same questions for umpteen years.
Samy Vellu claims that MIC represents the Indians. But how many Indians agree to this? Through the years I have read so many history books on Malaysia and I have yet to see copy of our declaration of independence. Have you seen it? Do you know what is written in it? Do you know who signed it? No. No. No.
If we can’t even have access to this document, what else are we fighting for???
We have a leader with a minimal primary education leading us (or so he claims). How far are we going to go? Nothing will happen until we have a intelligent and balanced leader. Until then, the poor will get poorer and the richer will get richer. This is the fact. Hindraf can go to the streets unitl the cows come home but nothing will happen as the so called Indian leaders and actually followers of a bigger force.
Anyway, since it has been mentioned by UMNO leaders that they don’t need the Indian votes in the next election, if they come seeking for votes in my housing area, I will tell them off.
melayu bodoh yang cakap tanah ini tanah melayu, ada nama melayu terpapar ke kat tanah melayu, ko orang cakap tuhan tuhan semua tuhan sama aje la bodoh !
ko orang melayu cakap tu u orang saja benar la
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apa benda bumiputra? bumiputra tu bukan warganegara malaysia ke? ade extra ekor kat ****** ke ?
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Dear Friends,
Please do not give any comment if you guys do not know the head and tail of the story. Hindraf is not starting a racial or a religious fight over here. Other than the temple thing, they are asking the government to look into the problems that the “indian community” is facing in this country. It’s very easy for anybody to say “if not happy just go back to your homeland” but this is our homeland.
Every race have their pros and cons, no point sharp shooting at each other.
dear justiceforall,
v indians r not againts malays or islams but its de politician who plays politics that v r mad about! im sorry behalf of some of my ppl abusin de word malay n islam! and to my fellow indian frenz plz try not to use de word malay to indicate or express ur anger…this wil just make things frm bad to worst..v r just fightin for our rites frm de gov thats all…v don wish to fight wit our malay n chinesse frenz here……
GUYS DO NOT VOTE FOR ANY PARTY BECOZ FINALLY IT WILL BE RULLED BY THE MALAY ONLY ATLAST
On 25th November 2007 we made history and proved
that “Failing to gather was not an option!” For
those who gathered there, be proud that you were
a milestone in the making of history. The
suppressed and depressed Malaysian Indians, after
50 years we did the “paradigm shift of the
century” by making this gathering a successful
one.
The spirit of the crowd was immeasurable. About
10 busloads of passengers walked all the way from
Rawang as the authorities denied their rights to
enter Kuala Lumpur . If time was not a factor,
they may have even walked all the way from Pinang
and Johor just to mark their presence at the
gathering. A spirit that cannot be denied by the
roadblocks nor the warnings from those who should
have protected them.
The crowd behaved perfectly. They followed every
advice to be calm and to observe non-violence. My
God, where did they learn this kind of tolerance?
The Indian youth often described as gangsters and
rowdies observed perfect calm and a non-violent
stance. ABSOLUTE AHIMSA! Now the world knows who
turned these innocent youth the other way.
The police followed their superior’s order by
pounding upon the crowd tear gas after tear gas
bombs. Malaysia would not have seen so much of
tear gas ever used in one single day. To say the
least, the taxpayers’ money used to buy tear gas
bombs, really were used against the tax payers
themselves, an irony! The youth at the frontlines
put the bombs off by pouring water which was
passed from about one kilometer behind the lines!
The crowd clapped and encouraged the bravery of
the front-liners.
I was with a massive crowd of not less than
30,000 in front of KLCC. Gallons of what seemed
like water-laced chemicals, or I would say
chemical-laced water, was jet sprayed from the
water cannons, providing my Permanently Colonised
Malaysian Indians a free shower, courtesy the
FRU. An unforgettable gift from the UMNO led
government after 50 years of loyal support from
beloved fellow Malaysian Indians! We received the
“gifts” with open heart.
I personally went through almost 8 to 10 showers,
enjoying the burning sensation throughout my
body. My eyes, my skin, my lungs, my stomach and
other parts of my body. I let every bit of the
burning sensation be absorbed by each and every
cell in my body. So did the thousands of the
participants at the gathering. We will store the
sensation in our cells for rest of our lives. We
will pass it on to our children and grand
children, after all this was the gift we received
from UMNO-led government.
Nevertheless, the crowd did not give up. How
could they? They waited patiently for 50 years.
Would they give up so easily? I spoke to many
foreigners, some were reporters. A gentleman from
Spain told me, such brutality cannot be seen in
his country, moreover against a peaceful
gatherers and he asked me how these guys can do
it to us. I wiped the tears that were caused by
the gift of UMNO-led government, smiled at him
and said “Malaysia Boleh!”
All we asked, me and my Permanently Colonised
Malaysian Indians, was for a mere simple one
hour. The officials gave us several hours to
prove to us how much they care for us. The senior
UMNO leaders were saying if this gathering was
permitted it might lead to a racial riot.
Bullshit! Let me share with you, what happened in
Kampung Pandan.
When we walked towards Kuala Lumpur City Centre
from Kampung Pandan, we were welcomed with
gallons of chemical-laced water. The innocent
civilians did not expect such a welcome and they
split into all directions. Some ran into the
housing area. My beloved Malay brethren quickly
called and pushed them into their homes
protecting them from the police who wanted to
arrest the Indians. After some time, seeing the
police outside, the Indians told their Malay
brothers ‘tak apa bang, nanti abang pula dapat
susah, biar kami keluar dan tengok apa akan
berlaku (It’s OK brother, we do not want you to
be in trouble because of us, let us go out and
face them).”
A perfect brotherhood among Muslims and Hindus,
among Malays and Indians took place. Teachings by
Prophet Muhammad and Lord Krishna were observed
perfectly. The teachings within the Holy Koran
and the Holy Bhagawath Geetha were seen in
practise here. The harmony of races in Malaysia !
Citizens of various religions and races in
perfect harmony, in perfect understanding, in
perfect tolerance, caring, loving and watching
out for each other.
So then, should there be any scent of racial
riots, the Rakyat will know who stirred up the
hornets nest. Stop gaining milegae by using us,
Politicians!!
As for the Malaysian Indians, be proud of what
you have done on 25th, you made History.
May Peace be with us forever…..
Dear Friends,
I agree that there are some problems facing the indian community. However street demo is not the way to solve them. I am living in Malaysia for the last 50 years. I know how much indians have improved in their life style and financial capabilities. ask those 56 and 70 years old people. they know very well. we were slaves of the British and the “malayalam” and “yazpanam” “thandals” and “keranis ” in the estates. How many indiand were having moto bikes and cars in those days.
Now Indians are rich businessmen, professionals like many of our heros, and every field they are capable to challenge any body. Almost 70% Indians have cars, own houses, TV, telephone, handphone, good food and dress. many have learned to operatE bank accounts. They can go for higher studys too. Going out overseas and spread out as malaysian businessman. Malaysian Indian businessman are the one who spend highest advertisement bills in TV and radio. What else you want?
WHAT DO THEY DON’T HAVE? POOR ARE IN EVERY RACE.
HOW IS THE TAMILS IN TAMIL NADU? WE ARE SO LUCKY THAT WE ARE HERE!!
EVEN IN INDIA THE CONSTITUTION IS THE SAME. EQUAL TO ALL….BUT IN INDIA ONLY BACKWARD CLASS IS ENTITILED TO SPECIAL PREVILEGES! GO TO INDIA AND SEE MY FRIENDS!
I HAVE GONE TO MANY COUNTRIES…INDIANS….I MEAN TAMILIANS ARE WELL TO DO, HAPPY AND PROPEROUS ONLY IN MALAYSIA, IN NO OTHER COUNTRY.
24 HRS TAMIL TV & RADIO STATIONS COMPARE WITH 15MINUTES IN 1950′S AND 1HR TV IN 1970′S. TAMILS NEWS PAPERS HOW MANY NOW COMPARE WITH 1960′S? OTHER WEEKLY TAMIL MAGAZINES…MANY MANY NOW.
Temple issues are our own problems. Every where temples…every corner there is a temple….We are not living together & praying together!
WHY CHINESE AND CHRISTIANS DO NOT BUILD THEIR TEMPLES AND CHURCHES EVERYWHERE? WHY THEIR PLACE OF WORSHIP IS NOT DEMOLISHED? OUR PEOPLE EVEN HAVE TEMPLES IN THE TAMAN HOUSES. PRAYING MAKING NOISE UP TO 1PM!
IS IT ACCEPTABLE BY ANYBODY?
WE HAVE TO SORT OUT OUR OWN PROBLEMS FIRST. WE HAVE TO PROOF THAT WE ARE A ISO9000 COMMUNITY FIRST. WE MUST BE CAPABLE OF BEST NEGOTIATORS!
SIT AND TALK WITH AUTHORITIES. DON’T BLAME OTHERS. WITHOUT THE HELP OF THE PRESEN GOVERMENT WE WOULD NOT BE HERE!!! I AM JUST PRAISING ANYBODY. I AM PERSONALLY EFFECTED BY LAWS AND ALSO BULLIED BY OFFICERS….BUT WE HAVE NO CHOISE. THIS PEOPLE ARE BETTER TAHAN THOSE FRUSTRATED OPPOSITION!!
WE WORK FOR THE FUTURE GENERATION, DON’T FIGHT FOR ANYTHING. LOVE TO LIVE!LOVE PEACE. MY DEAR FRIENDS I PRAY FOR ALL OF US!!
we’ll support u sir..
HINDRAF concern towards our indian community is a great support 4 al of us to fite 4 our rites. Choose a great leader and fite 4 our rites!!!
FOR THE INDIANS
URIMAI ELANTHOM…..UDAIMAI ELANTHOM
UNARVAI ELAKKALAMA???????
UYIRAI KODUTHU UNARVIL VALARTHA KANAVAI MARAKKALAMA???
UTHANGALL TONDRATUM…….
RATHANGALL SINTHATTUM……
PATHAI MARALAMA?????????
UTHATHIN OOCHATHIL ACCHANGAL VEGATTUM
KOLGAI SAGALAMA?????????
FOR HINDRAF…..
METKEY OOTIKUM SURIYANA…UNNAI
KILAKEY OOTIKA AANAYITOM…
THONDRIDA OONAKU TADAIYIRUNTHALLL
UUNNAI THONDI YEDUKAVE THUNINTHU…VITHOM..
Go Ahead Hindraf…The WORLD watching us and our struggle…
VANTHE MATHARAM.
cemerlang…..gemilang….terbilang…
RAKYAT TEMBELANG.!!!!!!!PM
the bloody goverment controlling by PAK LAH & FAMILY.
what use ISA for WHAT?…….BULK ****.
samy vellu must change the name to SAMY BULU…..hindraf.
hak-hak keistimewahaan org-org melayu MESTI dihapuskan….
everbody MUST fair…..PAK LAH.
Good Day to everyone! As we have observed lately of our Indian Community standings in Malaysia, can each of you please tell me or to your ancestors of your achievement today? For i.e., have you earned your dignity in the community fair enough; have you saved enough savings; have you raised your children properly; have you acquired enough knowledge to sustain in these multi-racial challenging environment; etc. Well, maybe some of you may have achieved those, but what happens to the majority Indians in Malaysia.
As I observed from 15 years back and now, the changes in terms of political, economic, religion, education, etc. were so drastic that made me wondering and worried of our younger Indian generation’s future standings in Malaysia. How do we make our Indian Community proud in the eyes of overall Malaysians? How long do you think that our upcoming generations shall depend on our Malaysia Government for support / aid / funding on medical, education, business, etc.? Are you suggesting that depending on others is indeed a good option to carry on with our life forever in Malaysia? I am pretty sure that the majority Indians would not think that way.
What we desire now is the Capability, Independent, Successful and Professional INDIANS in every field they embark in. This is possible if we can uplift our society by emphasizing them the importance of EDUCATION in their life. Thousands of families create a society. We can shift the change if each and every Indian in Malaysia can take care of their family / children by giving them proper shelter, education, guidance, etc. so that we would not have any single poor, illiterate, selfish, negative, corrupted Indians in 10-20 years time. INDIAN CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE! LONG LIFE INDIANS!
DEY SAMYVELU PUNDAMAVANE..OMMALEH AKKALE OKKE DA PAREH TEWEDIA ANJADI KARE SUNNI
SAMYVELLU WIFE GOT KOMPUTER KUDI
woi..sembang banyak tak guna…apa kata melayu dgn india gaduh…kita tgk sape yg menang nanti…ada berani????
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN,
I am a Malaysian citizen, and I am a subscriber of ASTRO Satellite TV Broadcast here in Malaysia. Recently I have subscribed to the ASTRO News Package which contains Al Jazeera and other foreign news media.
I was highly looking forward for the international news broadcast on all of the stations provided by the package when I had shocking news from our local news station claiming that the foreign news broadcasters are lying and making stories without properly acquiring the real facts and they are very good actors !!! Furthermore these claims were also made by our government’s politicians.
Now, this is rather disturbing and disappointing for me as I have only subscribed for the service for just a few days and I’m being bombarded with such claims. This eventually made me to think:
Am I an IDIOT to subscribe, pay and end up watching acts and lies
OR
Is there is any conspiracy going on here????
I clearly understand the fact that Al Jazeera has a strong principal called the Code of Ethics and you strictly follow it. But the claims by the politicians and local media here make me to think otherwise.
The claims below were broadcasted on 27-November-2007 in TV3 news station. Similar claims were also made in other local newscasters. This is just a few of the claims.
1. TV3 news station claimed that the foreign media cannot be trusted as they do not report the actual news.
2. YAB Datuk Sri Samy Velu claims that there were only 4,600 demonstrators on 25-November-2007 and NOT 50,000 or any other number as claimed by the foreign media.
3. TV3 news station said that the questions thrown at the Information Minister of Malaysia by Al Jazeera (Al Jazeera’s name was mentioned) was to purposely create a scene to show that Malaysia is in kiosk situation and Al Jazeera purposely built up the story from the real one. They also mentioned the criticism made by the Information Minister to Al Jazeera.
(Prior to sending the mail, I did some research on the net and actually found the video clip of the above Interview in Youtube. And I actually laughed myself out listening to the reply given by our Minister. Pity him for his language. But in the Malaysian news channel TV3, they only provided the “CLEAN” version of the transcript and the actual call was not aired. This makes me even more confused!!! Who is telling the truth here???)
Now, if Al Jazeera is telling lies,
It is high time for Al Jazeera to review back their Code of Ethics and provide the truth for the people. If you can’t do it then don’t cheat the entire world. And don’t broadcast your news at all. I am not a fool to keep paying for acts and lies.
And if Al Jazeera is NOT lying,
Well, what the heck. The damage has already been done. No one in Malaysia is going to listen to your news anyway due to the “VERY GOOD” publicity done by the Malaysian politicians and the local media. By the way, did I mention that our local media could also be received by our neighboring countries like Singapore and Thailand?
FINAL CONCLUSION
It is not my intension to insult Al Jazeera, other foreign media, our local media or the politicians. If you feel offended by this email, I sincerely apologize to you. Whatever the scenario is, all that I want (and the rest of Malaysian citizens who are in my situation want) is the truth. Since Al Jazeera’s and other foreign media’s names have been badly damaged here in Malaysia, Al Jazeera and the other foreign media’s SHOULD do something to fix it back or you may start loosing your viewer in Malaysia.(and its surrounding countries too)
I hope you could keep my details confidential and properly investigate on this issue (just incase if you don’t trust me) and find out the real truth behind such a drastic claims by our local media. That is if you still follow your Code of Ethics.
Yours truly,
A concerned viewer.
PS:
1. i am also forwarding this mail to other foreign media for their response.
2. i will be posting this transcript in the internet via blogs so that the viewers around the world will be aware that this matter has been brought to your attension and for them to express their views.
well, hope u guys can fuel the brain instead fueling the emotions and let it burn. don’t forget that it can burn you, burn your fellow beings!
first if we want to protest for our rights, it should within our country, not to the third parties. it sounds to me like lifting the face and split towards the sky, thinking that u r fighting against it. but in fact u r spliting on ur own face! when we have family problem, are we bringing it to the public? we are solving that in between the 4 walls rite? samething should go here. country is also like a mother. will you go and get new mother if you not comfortable/ not feel fair with ur own mother? will you? if you are that kind of person, then i have no words to say..
second, before cleansing the goverment i think we should cleanse our community first!
tell me if you can find the indian community where the cast not come in to the picture. there is minority who is treated badly as minority by indian community itself. don’t dare to say no. my own parents also did that, when they stay in estate those time and until now there is people still practising that..
third, before blaming others, and expecting others to change, i think we should drive the change in ourself first! don’t forget that when u point others with 1 finger, the rest of 4 fingers are pointing at urself! i came from poor family also. my parent are rubber tapers and stayed in very small town in Perak. i’m fully grown with goverment support, completed my education in distinction, get a good job, bought a car and house, making my husband as businessman and leading good and peacefull life. not only me, all 5 sibling of mine as well! if i can do that, y can’t you? it is just simply means that u prople are not grabbing the chances! it is not to blame the goverment but urself! how many of us is doing good in education? how many of us is neglected even we have good education with flying colours? there is so many things we have to correct in our community before blaming others.
i’m not really against the protest, and i’m not supporting the goverment neither. i’m just a peace lover and hope u guys can do the things in better way that it is not sparkling the racial issues. understand that this is a multi racial country, the give and take concept should be always there. how the chinese control the economy and put thier feet strongly in this country? they also had been brought as the the labours to this country rite? if they can, why can’t we? did anybody ever think about that? we should do something similiar which can lead the goverment to value us and afraid of losing us. we should work together to put ourself up to that height. not to look up to the sky and expecting the gold will be falling! if u guys really want to fight, just migrate to sri lanka, that will do. until u guys experience that kind of living situation, u guys will never appreciate the harmony and the peace that become a back bone of this country!
instead of wasting time, energy and money in doing all this, just go and address out the needy people in our community and help them! that can change the fate of our community here. if Uthaya Kumar can do that, then i can salute him as a hero. now he is still zero, because bringing down the image of country, image of overall malaysian indian here. other country poeple now will see malaysian indian as a slave of this country. when somebody says “A”, that can end up with ‘Z’, when news are spreading. u guys may be proud of saying we has been treated as as a slave in this country! but i’m ashamed off! my self-respect is not allowing that and i think whoever have the self-respect will be standing against it!
if you telling this protest is because goverment is demolishing the temples, i just want to ask you, when you guys will stop fighting in the sake of god’s name? no harm questioning but there is still some other better way to react..
i don’t know what is the real intension behind “Uthaya Kumar” and his fellow beings..
it can be political or personal drive.. but whatever, before shaking head like cows and follow them, stop one moment and think! it takes 50 years of all of our efforts to build this nation, but to collapsed it just takes few seconds! i beg u guys, please let this country stay in peace for our next generation.. u guys are not protesting but threatening the harmony of this country!
- Malaysian (ashamed to called myself as Malaysian Indian!)
Can someone explain to me the difference between Bumiputra, Umnoputra, Orang Melayu and orang islam??? Which one got the highest standing in society?? and which category earns more income and pay more taxes? We are a bit confuse here. Is a malay that have convert to Christian still call a malay or orang melayu and if a melayu converts to a buddhist will he still be entitle to bumiputra status? What about if I am a UMNO member and I marry a chinese wife and then decides to change my religion to buddhist, can I still maintain my membership in UMNO?? Or my chinese friend decides to marry a malay wife – will he be able to change his name to a malay name and convert to bumiputra status?? Or he must join UMNO to enjoy bumiputra status? If my chinese friend convert to islam, can he still visit the temple?? What about if my chinese friend change name to malay in the IC, can he join UMNO then? Please furnish rakyat with more information. We are coming to a solution to solve this racist problem. Maybe all chinese and indians just change their name to malay name and join UMNO, I am sure there will be no more discrimination. All problem solved!!!
If you go to NST and ask someone to read through the archives, you will find that our former PM Tun Mahathir once offered Samy Vellu another 2 ministership post to MIC so that there will be more support and help for the indian community but guess what? Samy Vellu politely declined saying that one ministership post is enough.
So….to all HINDRAF supporters – not all Indians ya… whether you like it or not, you must also put the blame on yourself with the lack of progress of the Indians here. There’s no point in comparing the Indians here with the Indians in Tamil Nadu for the Indians here are much more richer than in Tamil Nadu.
If the indians here are indeed marginalised, just remember the lawyers that led HINDRAF – ask tham how they became lawyers and not labourers?
By saying that indians are marginalised, you are also denying the thousands of indians who became successful lawyers, professors, doctors, accountants, business people and they all achieved not by screaming at the top of their voices or engaging in protests or being politically connected – they toiled hard, they thought smart, they exercised patience and they showed us malays, chineses, sikhs that they are as capable as any other race in Malaysia if not the world.
No one became successful because of their technical know who but only bcause of their technical know how.
Look at the sikh community? Do you think they feel marginalised? Have you seen a sikh begging on the streets as much as a malay, indin or a chinese? Why are they a successful community?
Not all malays, chinese and sikhs are rich or privileged, more than half are either middle class or lower class. I myself come from a PAS dominated state where there are still malays living in poverty in Tanah Merah, Gua Musang, Kuala Krai and Pasir Puteh as much as there are in Terengganu and Kedah. Maybe its because we Kelantanese are marginalised by the federeal government but that does not stopped us from being very successful enterpreneurs. Kedah isnt an opposition dominated state but why are there still malays under poverty? I believe it is because they refuse to listen to others and feels that the system owes them something. This isnt the west where you are given a cheque every month if you are not working – in Malaysia.. we are not a welfare state, we have to work in order to earn but we must earn the right way and not by dealing in drugs, prostituitions, gangsterism etc etc.
My indian neighbour feels embarassed that this has happened, apologised to me for the unruly remarks against my race by some during the protests but I will never ever blame him or any indians.
There’s always the good, bad and ugly in every community. We only need to listen with our head and not with our heart.
I travel a lot all over the world as a backpacker and I have yet to see any government allowing fully fledged schools for different races except here. No other country except Malaysia and Singapore declares holidays for muslims, christians, hindus, chinese, kadazans etc etc.
No where else in this world where you can see a mosque, church, temple located within a 5kn range of each other in some parts of the city.
No where else in this world people throw their houses opened for others to join in the celebration of Aidilfitri, Xmas, Deepavalee, Chinese New Year etc etc…
Don’t get misled by people who throw stones but hide their hands behind quickly. I personally never trust politicians as well as leaders of any movement for most of them are all for the publicity of their profession. Someone ALWAYS make money from disturbances!!!
The leaders are now the most famous lawyers – it used to be Karpal Singh – and their legal business will now thrive on forever.
This is capitalism in a democratic country which is perfectly legal!
Yes…if you would like to destroy peace, feel free to give up your citizenship and export yourself freely to Tamil Nadu where politicians use religious clashes to keep them on the platform of power or head for all the world’s racial troublespots and prove yourself that you really have guts.
Malaysia does not need people like you here.
PORADUVOM-PORADUVOM SAMY VELLU SAGOM VARAI PORADUVOM………
KONDADUVOM-KODADUVOM SAMY VELLU KARUMAZI KONDADUVOM……….
THROW SAMY VELLU BASTARD,….VANDE MATEREM
I think MIC and MCA should comeout from BN and join the opposition party to restore back the justice in Malaysia. I’m worried about my children’s future in this country. There was time during one of the parliment meeting that one of the minister have told non-malays to go out from this country if don’t like to stay here. How dare a minister can talk like that and even after hearing that, MCA and MIC leader are still licking the leg of the corrupted UMNO’s ministers.
We can see that each time new ministers enter into the cabinet, his relatives or children will form a company and granted million ringgit projects. Goverment must make a rules that any ministers relatives/sibblings in cabinet should not be awarded any goverment contracts. Then I will see how many ministers truly want to join the cabinet. Everyone is corrupted in Malaysian Goverment and we can see clearly the reports from ACA.
All malaysian are one race regardless of religion and I hope Goverment can accept this. I believe Goverment lead by BN do not want to give equal right to all the races not because they want to protect the right of overall malays in this country but to protect their own privillege.
Wahai Melayu anak bumi
Kalau tanah ini benar tanah melayu, tunjukkan kepada saya 100 perkataan asli melayu. Kajian Etimologi akan membuktikan bahawa bahasa melayu dibanjiri oleh perkataan sanskrit, tamil dan arab (sekarang Inggeris)kerana sejarah asal negara ini bukannya bermula dengan melayu maupun Islam. Oleh sebab inlah tidak ada skolar melayu yang berani membuat kajian etimologi di MAlaysia!
Dear Voters,
The present government has not come any close to answer a single question raised by the hindraf but instead inducing threat namely isa,osa,usa,esa and so on! KJ instigated illegal rally during the visit of C Rise. Why didn’t Abdullah come up with isa threat?
son in law
broke the law
cincai tutup mata
My suggestion. We throw away this government in the coming election. Give the opposition a chance. If they dont perform we throw them too.
HI all,
I’m manamulla tamilan. pls!!! view the http://www.jeffooi.com and http://www.policewatchmalaysi.com will tell u 1000 of words that gov trat our indian like hell….Where is our useless leader SAMYVELLU…
Hi all indian makkals i’m realy proud of HINDRAF… I alredy spred out this Good news to all my family memebers & relatives.
HI Indain makkals pls!!! register today for Vote in coming election..&&&& DON’t VOTE for BN…
VALGA TAMILAN>>>>TAMILAN>>>>>>>TAMILAN
Dear umno cronies,
The problem now face by most Malaysians are not just the poor people but the misuse of public funds by our govt. I can see so many discrimination like the force purchase of Southern Bank by CIMB even when the original shareholders of Southern Bank refuse to sell. We have a corrupted Govt who are using the rakyat’s taxpayers money to achieve their own personal interest. Take example, send a space tourist call angkasawan to space in a russian spaceship for RM15 million for just a 10 days holiday in space. Where does the RM15 million come from? Isn’t from our taxes that we pay. Why can’t our govt use it to help the poor indians with RM15 million??? UMNO Cronies, I know you support our govt, me too…but the misuse of public funds is going beyond tolerance level of the majority rakyat. That’s why there are protest in thousands this month itself. I have a situation here, let’s say Badawi have only RM3 in his pocket, and he walk pass 3 beggers . The first begger is a malay, and 2nd begger is chinese and 3rd begger is an indian. Will he donate to each begger RM1 or he donates RM3 to the malay begger and forget about the other 2 beggers or he pass the RM3 to Samy Vellu and ask him to do what he like with the RM3 because it is the taxpayer’s money anyway, not really his own money. So can UMNO Cronies answer which action will our PM take when he’s holding RM300 million of taxpayers money??? What we want is accountability not just talk by the govt that they can do this do that. Anyway, we shouldn’t be comparing with other countries when there’s misuse of public funds in our very own country. If our country got criminals would you like to say “look here, our country have less criminals then Iraq, you rakyat should be happy when there’s less criminals in Malaysia.” It’s that what you are trying to say umno cronies?? Criminals means criminals, there’s no such thing as more or less. So goes for corruption, the govt cannot say “Look here, there’s less corruption in Malaysia compare to Japan and America, so we are still doing well to contain corruption…” So umno cronies is trying to ask our rakyat to compare our Malaysian govt by comparing our govt with USA we should be saying ” look here, our country is not as rich as USA because we are stupid and not productive time for our govt to change….” If umno cronies can compare our country with poorer countries then umno cronies should also compare us with the richer countries. What about Thailand? 15 years ago Thailand is more backwards then us economically but now they are ahead of us rite? And out of the top 100 billionaires in the world there are 13 billionaires are from India rite base on Forbes statistics?? So is there a Malay Bumiputra within the top 100 billionaire in the world?? Nope. So our Malaysian govt is not as good as the India Govt rite??What about Singapore? Isn’t Singapore a smaller nation but doing better then Malaysia in terms of economy???
Isn’t Singapore doing better then Malaysia even both country started independence almost the same time and also have less resources then Malaysia and also less population too?? So, our Malaysian govt have failed to create bumiputra entrepreneurs that can compete with Singaporeans rite????? Dun compare Malaysia with the worst nations, try to compare Malaysia with the best nations and see how far we have reach. Even China which is poorer then Malaysia 15 years ago is now surpassed Malaysia in terms of GDP and also productivity and also the number of billionaires in China is more then Malaysia.
So please-please umno cronies, not only you can compare, others can too.
HI alL,
i’m manamulla tamilan.I’m realy sad on what happen to our indian makkals on the relly….pls!!! view http://www.jeffooi.com will tell you 1000000 of words how gov treat us…..where is our useless SAMYVELLU……
I’m realy Proud of “HINDRAF”…..I’m already spread the all the message from http://www.policewatchmalaysia.com to my family, relatives & friends…All the readers pls!!! do the same thing…
Those indian alrady 21yr pls!!! register now for next election ask Ur family memmbers , relatives & friends do the same things…& we wote for the against party….like DAP, KEADILAN & etc.. DON’t VOTE for “BN”
VALGA TAMILAN>>>>>TAMILAN>>>TAMILAN>>>
dearest bandit leader.1st of all let me clear things out. I dont think u c the real picture. What we really want is equality, with no discrimination whatsoever. Wether you like it or not Malaysia is a country that has legalised discrimination. If you know what i mean.You c wouldnt life be simpler easier and better for everyone if indeed the goverment of Malayisa helps everyone regardless of race. Bcoz as i understand all of us malay, chinese , indians ect are not from this country. The realpeople are orang asli. So y does the goverment have these policies. If it was to safeguard the bumiputras then i think it should be removed now as i think that alot them have improved in their wealth and health. why cant the goverment create a policy that benifits the poor regardless of race and religion and colour. Why does it have to have a quota. DO the non muslims work less harder that the bumiputras that that they have to pay more. Do you know the history of how Indians came to Malaya and how the majority of them were forced to live a life of poverty, hard labour ect. They were cheated, discriminated and had no one to voice out their problems. the leaders back then were not doing much either. i Can go on. but what im trying to say is that yes the goverment did help the indians but not much. Im sure the mlays had it tough as well. But their leaders and the policies took care of the majority of them. I thinkwhats written in the constitution is outdated. Our policies are outdated and have hidden motives. They still have their discriminatory policies and agendas of taking better care of one race. If you open your eyes you can really c what going on. It’s been 50 years, isn’t it time that all of us have equal citizenship.
I think by having the rally, Hindraf managed to bring to surface these issues which the goverment tries to cover. I am sure evry Malaysian who is not bumpitra feels the same. Wouldn’t you?
and to Melayu…
This is the exact atitude that shows how narrow minded and uncivilized you are. Do u really think that you are better that the restof the races that livein Malaysia.Why are u comparing your selves to countries that practice discrimination or worse than Malaysia. Why cant you compare us with countries that have better policies, practices equality for all, places importance on human rights for all like singapore and australia. Why do u have tolook at countries worse than you.we are not againbst Malaysbut we are against Malays like you.
Ps:if theassembly wereto goon without interference by police…but insteadprotection and good monitoring…. things would hav beenmore peacefull foreveryone.
This message is in response to Chee Kok Leong:
You have forwarded so many questions but I am just going to answer one question only which hopefully will solve all your questions!
Question: Who is a Malay?
In our constitution, a Malay is defined as a person who is a Muslim and practices a malay culture. Therefore, anybody who is a muslim and practices Malay culture is a muslim. Please note that this definition is only for Malaysia. In other places outside the world, this is not how a Malay is defined. In Indonesia, the Malays are different from other races although most of the are muslims. If a chinese had stayed in Malaysia long enoungh, and he/she is a muslim and his generation practices some of the Malay cultures, then he is a Malay. Baba and Nyonya are not Malays because they are not muslims. A muslim mamak who stays long enough in Malaysia and practices some of Malay cultures are Malays. If a chinese marying another chinese but both convert to Islam, they are still not Malays (too new to practice Malay cultures), but their generations will be, since the offsprings will all carry muslim names. Orang Jawa are Malays although they have their own mother tonque language because they are muslims and practice malay culture.
Remember that, by constitution, a Malay is a Muslim. Therefore, if you are a Malay, you are automatically a muslim. You cannot change your identity since it is by law. This is why Lina Joy cannot convert to other religion. How can someone change her race? It will only be possible if she drops her citizenship!
As a muslim, no matter who you are, you are entitled to Syariah law. If you drink alcohol, you will be excecuted or punished. Therefore, once you declare as a muslim, you cannot go to temple, because the syariah law has the right on you.
Historically, there are many races that make up a Malay. For example, in Kedah the Malay peninsular was a trading ground for the Indians, Chinese, Arabs, Siams, migrants from Indeonesia/Philippines, and the proto Malays. During that time, Malay language was the official language, similar to English nowadays. Some of these traders decided to stay in the Peninsular and married among them. Remember that during this period, Muslim Empayer was controlling the world. Even during that time, China was once a muslim country under Dynasty Ming.
Do you know why the Malay has 9 kings and sultans?
This is because each sultan represents his group of people in general. For example, The sultan of Johor represents Javaneese, Selangor repesents Bugis, Perlis represents Arab, Kelantan represents Champa, Kedah represents Siam, etc….
Who are the bumiputra?
Bumiputra represents those who stayed in Malaysia before the British or other colonial came. A siamese who stayed before this period is a Bumiputra. A portuguese decendent are also bumis, same for Sabah and Sarawak…. ‘Hak2 orang melayu’ was created and approved in the constitution by the British when we received independence. This is because the British wanted to repay thier sins for bringing millions of Chinese and Indians, which never happened in this world before. During that time the malays were boycoting the colonials while the chinese and indians took advantage of economy. Remember that at one time the Indians were richer than the Malays.
Remember, even now in term of average, the Indians are still richer than the Malays. The Malays are mostly middle class people. More indians belong to the upper class. Ananda Krishnan is one of the richests here, but how many malays are there? The difference between the ‘Malays & Chineese’ and the ‘Indians’ is that we help our own race. But to the Indians, ’semua masuk perut sendiri….’. You should blame youself for this, your caste system….
In my opinion, for those who feel left behind, change your religion to a muslim or a buddhist…. This is what is happening for the non-touchable people in India, (the Dalits). If you are a muslim, there is zakat money for you being paid monthly. If you are a buddhist, hopefully the rich chinese will help you…?!
Independent was achieved by all 3 races with tremendous hardwork, commitment, dedication and corperation….. so on.
So what ever, agreeded in the constitution must be followed strictly witout prejudice or ego.
The contents must not be deleted, altered, overlooked,.. or over ruled with oral instructions/by laws to consive general public. Apa susahnya! if followed all be happy and will progress evenly.
And apart from that with the help of community based parties, particular community will certainly florish in future. Now we are in globalization era, which gives ample of opportunities to the creative minds to contribute for the betterment of humankind not only for certain conutries or individual or races or etnics n etc.. The world is heading towards that kind of mindset, infact one can see this kind of event taking place in some developed countries for long time. Thats how this country has developed so successfully and able to sustain it.
All leaders (politician, religous, etnic, NGO n etc) should have this kind of mindset and plays vital role, common understanding develope the world for mankind. Borderless, only one country THE WORLD, everybody is the citizen, everyone has rights, everyone is bumiputra, its everybody’s home, nobody is refuges, nobody can ask us to leave,…..the rest should not be priority.
Thats the direction the world should be heading. If can dont stress on religion much, its a need for life but i think people come first above all.
Vision 2020 is right around corner, can we become a REALLY developed country as we wished for??
I see most of the experts like development project consultancy, medical, space program, nukluer energy needs,automobiles, many many many more thingss. we are still depending on foreigners like Japanese, American, Korean, Russian, Indian, Chinese n etc… Most of our country’s income i think is flow flow out just like that. For how long are we go to keep this trend going. I think it will end somewhere at least after our petroleum goldmine depletes. Afer that what?? Revenues come from agriculture of course. Technologically how?? will be able to excell????
My question is,,, why we sort for other foreign expert outside, while we do have them here leave for hundred yearsssss. WHy are we not exploiting or harvesting their resoures or ability to the fullest for the development of the country?? Why waste the valuble asset??
Think for the future. WE must help each other for prgress, everyone have their talent and weakness. I continue later.. goin for lunch, my malay n chinese friend are wait long for me. I cant keep them waiting!! pity them!
Please be reminded that after the 69 riots (that was caused by UMNO not DAP)provisions were made to uplift the unprivileged Malays thus giving birth to the diabolic New Economic Policy. The non-malays in Malaysia accepted the NEP as a necessary evil for cessation to Malay aggression. This policy was supposed to last 30 years from 70′ to year 2000. In 1970 the nations wealth was 27.2% Chinese, 2.4% Malay, 2% Indians and the rest was in the hands of foreigners. Today after 37 years it is claimed that only 18.7 % is in the hands of the Malays hence an excuse to perpetuate this policy (in reality it has surpassed 40%). 40% Chinese (despite the odds placed on them by the UMNO) and Indians 1%. After 37 years the Indian wealth has dropped to 1% and MIC(cronies of UMNO) and UMNO do not seem to care at all at this disparity. So is it wrong for the Indians to cry FOUL ! This affirmative action started by UMNO as a policy for unprivileged Malays is now being perpetuated as a policy for the Supreme Race (Ketuanan Melayu) which was coined by the half-Indian Mahathir.
melayu adalah KUDA KAYU itulah adat perpatah melayu!!!!!
yang cikgu ajar sejarah MELAYU…….GILI DA.
let’s go n support Mr.P.Uthayakumar n gang….they done lot to malaysia indian.Now our time to raise voice to world.stand in path…..i wan people say malaysian not indians malay or chineses. we are MALAYSIANS. We dont want you SAMY VELLU, give chance to youngster to guide MIC.Time to leave the mic Mr. SAMY VELLU. We think Mr.Uthayakumar, Mr.Wathya Moorthy or Mr.Ganabathirau either one will be come OUR FUTURE MIC LEADER. Stop Vote for OLD MAN SAMY VELLU and OTHER OLD ssssss…………… LIVE HINDRAF
I wish to applogise for the negative comments given by my sikh breathen. But the fact of the matter is that change always begins with one self. One is classified as successful if one discharges his obligations as expected according once station in life. The sikhs have taken the level as it is and managed to improve from that point on. We are not rich we are just middle class, but grateful for the peace we enjoy in this country. There are approximately 70 sikh temples throuhout the country, so far as i can tell no sikh temple has yet been forceably demolished none that I know off . Thank you. I feel for my Hindu friends if their place of worship is demolished. But then again we must constuct temples on approved grounds. But the authorities also should take into account temples that are old they should not be arbitrarily demolished. Given the fact the temple committee may not be that well versed with procedures of registering the temples. The hard core Indian poor should be helped. Those who can eark a living , I feel one can raise a family reasonably well in this country. I know of a hindu grass cutter, a form three dropout have made a success of grasscutting. He has four workers ,drives a honda accord and has a turnover of 6to 7 k per month. A busdriver can earn RM2000 to 2500 per month in Rapid Bas. There are lots of skilled occupations where the Indians can make a good living. With positive thinking we can become professionals etc. Those days a sikh cowheard can educate his child to become professional . Than all this is only possible if there is peace in the country. MIC is doing its best within its limited resourses. MIED has given loans to poor Indian students. Institutions like Tafe have been set up. I think we cannot afford to have unreast in this country. Let the peaceful times be here for ever. Wealth gained thru sweat will remain. Be calm all is not lost.
for the educated malaysian,
first of all you do not sound like an educated, I’m not sure if you are just here to irritate the indian people (pouring carosine over a fire) and to start a racial fight just to give a bad name for the hindraf. Whatever it is, the lower caste, untouchable is not something you have when you were born, it is the tag given by people like you for those who work as labourers, cleaners etc. Wheres in this modern world it does not exist anymore, For your information, if not for those untouchable “in your term” the country will be filled with filth.
Hi Mohan Bro…I don’t know how many times you bend down for Samy Vellu..
Please wake up!!!!!!
To Malaysian (ashamed to be called as Malaysian indian!!!)
Fisrt of all i would like to congratulate for your sucess in your life. You claimed that you have worked hard and come up in your life. Thank god you have done it and dont talk big about about it. We are not addressing your issue. God and some another influencial person might have been guided you. Therefore you can work hard and channel your energy for good use.
How about so many other indians who dont even know what to do. Majaority of them dont even know what is going on around them. You just going to blame them and let them to be manipulated by others.
Your are very wrong to say that the indians are not working very hard. YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND THE ROOT CAUSE of the indian’s problem in Malaysia. Don’t use yourself as the yard stick to measure other indians.
I think you have not carry out sufficient data collection and therefore your comment is not suitable for the comunity. Please shut up!. NO DATA NO TALK!
Indians are good worker and they lack of creativity. Therefore for time being the indians need a very good and creative leader to guide them. If you read the history you will know that majority of indians belong to the labourer class. They were trained to follow instructions. Therefore they need guidance and support so that they can get away from this situation and become like you.
I am ashamed to have you in my comunity.
Hi HINDRAF members,
Now our family “HINDRAF” need financial support. Pls!!! forward this message to all your family, relative, & friends..
and give a suuport how much u can…
Note: To all Hindraf supporters who wish to support this cause financially, kindly bank in your contributions to Hindraf Enterprise , RHB Bank Account No 21409900063168.
Thanks for kind co-operation,
best rgds>kali
Samy Velu is liar! He got houses in other country. He does not care about indians. Do not vote for MIC!!!!
Dear justiceforall ,
We are not againts Islam. We just asking why we are being mistreated. If we are teh goverment and we treat Islam and demolish Mousq will you sit and talk. I am not being buyers.. but Islam will fight for it’s rights with the term JIHAD. We did a gathering to summit memo and we need support from all. Why we have been spary with chemicals and tear gas. Why when the 10 Nov was not being spray with heavy duty chemical water like how they did on the 25 Nov. How could gov said when the temple in shah alam was brought down gov reply was ” SAYA DAH CAKAP TAPI DIORANG TAK DENGAR” so it means gov does not have the respect by it’s own people. Why should we sent the memo to the gov when gov can even stop teh city state? Do you think they will help with the memo? it’s been over 150 years and we are still litsening! It’s time to change the odds. So sorry if i have hurt anyones feeling but this is the fact!
Dear reasonable folks,
I read one of the best joke of my life in a famous daily today. That is all of a sudden the MIC machinery is going to start a channel (hotlines) for the Indians to put forward their complains.
Dear God! enough is enough! Answer this. How can one complain about a theft to a thief? How can one complain about a murder to a killer?
wahai hang jebat let me tell u something.u let us to build one Lord Muruga statue but u guys are destroying more than 100 temples.u are calling urself as a muslim but u don’t protrate urself as a true muslim.well am a new revert but that’s not the issue here.give respect and take respect.we indians just voicing or humble rights thats all.in surah Al-Ikhlas it says:
Ertinya:
“Dengan menyebut nama Allah Yang Maha Pemurah lagi Maha Penyayang. Katakanlah : “Dialah Allah , Yang Maha Esa, Allah adalah Tuhan yang bergantung kepada-Nya segala sesuatu. Dia tiada beranak dan tiada pula diperanakkan, dan tidak ada seorangpun yang setara dengan Dia.“
here Allah ask His slaves to “KATAKANLAH” dan bukannya “ROBOHKANLAH”.
IF U DISCRIMINATE ANY MINORITIES IT SHOWS U ARE NOT A TRUE MUSLIM AS WHAT NABI MUHAMMAD S.A.W ASKED U TO BE.MY INDIAN FRIENDS MIGHT DON’T KNOW ABOUT ISLAM.THATS THE REASON I AM HERE TO QUESTION ALL MALAYS SO CALLED MUSLIMS IN MALAYSIA.SHOW ME WHICH VERSE IN QURAN SAYS THAT U SHOULD DISCRIMINATE MINORITIES,WHICH VERSE ASK U TO DEMOLISHES THE TEMPLES?TELL ME???????????
IF U CAN’T DO GOOD FOR US,AT LEAST DON’T DO BAD FOR US.WE DON’T WANNA WASTE OUR TIME TO ARGUE WITH MALAYS ABOUT RELIGION COZ WE HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO THAN ENTERTAINING ALL UNEDUCATED PEOPLE WHO DISCRIMINATE AND DISRESPECTFUL.
I CAN PROUDLY CALL MYSELF AS AN INDIAN…BUT I GUESS I GOTTA THINK TWICE BEFORE I COULD CALL MYSELF AS A MUSLIM..
VALGE HINDRAF…
VALGE TAMIL MAKKAL..
VALGE INDIANS..
EVEN I AM A MUSLIM NOW BUT I WILL REMAIN AS A PROUD INDIAN AND I WILL DIE AS AN INDIAN..
GOOD LUCK TO ALL INDIANS….MAY GOD BLESS ALL OF US…
hands off for u MR.P.Utahayakumar!!!!!!!!
i am proud of u….u have created a great unity among our indians. once again we have shown to everyone that we have power…
samy!!! please stop ur dramas…
we dont need u!!!!! we have faced a lot of obstacles..in this brutal society..there is no place for our indians..we were treated as a rubbish…
the rich become richer( MIC LEADERS)
the poor become poorer ( malaysian indians)
I do not support any violence and racism..but I’ve seen it getting intense day by day..believe me Malaysia will burn to the ground one day,my advise to all races please dont let your hand act faster than your brain, we dont want to..I dont want to..You dont want to lost your beloved one..think again
Dear Peaceful Singh , i agree with your peace thoughts . No doubts . But there are things went out of hands. Yes , kids from poor family can have education . But it’s till form 6 . Then ? There comes Uni and it’s quota system . Some poor students whom cant afford private education end up taking up low profile courses tht were offered by Uni . A frend’s request to have Tamil name to his shop denied by malay pendaftar , how about this? A poor orphan Indian lady chased away by majlis perbandaran for putting small flower shop . But there’re dozens of similar malay shops in illegal spots….how about tht? How many Tamil schools you’ve seen in good condition ?
Past 50years were thr any demonstration by Indians? Why now? Thr were too much pressure tht the ppl cant take it anymore . Dun judge by a handle case studies to say thr are opportunities well available . HINDRAF leaders had these analyzed before screaming for justice ! My dear they’ve proof else how could they sent memo to UK & UN …etc . Probably tht’s why their offices raided ….to destroy those evidence…
A minister said those 30,000 at KL rally are ‘crooks’ and thr are silent majority tht supports them …… it’s a joke for all Indians . They didnt know that the 30k represented 2million ! Dun forget , thr were only 30k cos of roadblocks nationwide ! Dun believe ….. wait till election !
My questions to all of you…How many of you register to vote??? Just talk and give comment are not good enough. You feel things are not right than you must act…..Vote for the right leader. Your one vote can make changes in the country. If you feel the current leader not good then vote for others. For years criticize Samy but he still in power. Why he still in power? Think…Use your brain than your emotions.
the channel (hotlines) for Indians is the success of HINDRAF and not PM/MIC . Shame of BN !
For those whom criticize HINDRAF’s effort , think of why gov sooooo afraid and trying all possible ways to stop their activities IF there’s no truth ? Why gov has to force media to report twisted news on Nov25 rally? Now they even ‘kutuk&